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You seem to be suggesting that the economic system of adding more people and more consumption should be the path out of this. I’m not at all convinced. I’m not
by quantified 5y ago
You seem to be suggesting that the economic system of adding more people and more consumption should be the path out of this. I’m not at all convinced. I’m not such a Malthusian to suggest that we can’t carry more people or more activity into some of the future, but I don’t see humanity as a low-trust squabbling whole following any local example of a high-trust, wealthy Nordic. You’ve noticed that 50% or so of cement CO2 is from the chemistry itself. That becomes 2.5-4% of global emissions right there. Plus the rape of sand from beaches here and there, better it does dial way back.
Funny solar does provide cracking of atmospheric nitrogen. Happens inside plants, no less.
When and where will all this solar and wind come on line? Anywhere near enough to where power is used? Texas or the UAE, where they blast AC in the open air? How can anyone roll coal from an electric pickup? Culturally, the US won’t adapt quickly enough, coastal elites with waterfront property are the ones worried about oceans rising. Go inland 100 miles and having feeling respected is much more important. That’s feelings, but we’re talking humans here.
I’m surprised we’re not talking about nuclear in the form of thorium reactors as well, though personally I think there’s no way humanity uses nuclear in a more substantial way for 100 years without substantially screwing something up. But electrifying all the things means mining and distributing and recycling all the lithium as well.
- triceratops 5y ago> You seem to be suggesting that the economic system of adding more people and more consumption should be the path out of this. Not really, no. Electrifying everything will be expensive and make things expensive. Consumption will reduce naturally as a result. > Texas or the UAE, where they blast AC in the open air? They're both excellent places for solar and wind, so why not? > How can anyone roll coal from an electric pickup? Tax the s** out of ICE vehicles. I have an ICE vehicle myself, so I'm not speaking casually. > Culturally, the US won’t adapt quickly enough, And yet you're suggesting that we can somehow "ratchet down the use of cement and fertilizer"? The solutions I'm proposing are all technical and more tractable than changing the culture of a nation.