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Should we just excuse every shitty thing Elon does, just because he has autism? He managed to become a billionaire even though he's autistic so I think it's fa

by 4ggr0 5y ago

Should we just excuse every shitty thing Elon does, just because he has autism? He managed to become a billionaire even though he's autistic so I think it's fair to criticize him on the same level as we do others.

throwaway290 5y ago
There are plenty specific actions of his that we can criticise without getting into possibly unalienable traits that he may not have chosen to have.
simondotau 5y ago
Holy epic strawman there, Batman. No of course not. I didn’t say that. Nobody else said that. I don’t agree with that. I don’t know anyone else who agrees with that. I’ve never heard anyone say that.
- 4ggr0 5y ago
  Ever since he dropped that he has autism I have heard this being used as an excuse, which really frustrates me. If you don't do that, perfect.
  - throwaway290 5y ago
    I wasn't aware Musk admitted he has autism, I don't really follow him but read one article where childhood bullying was mentioned. (It probably caused insecurity which is part of the reason for his success and part of why I would expect him to attempt to use Twitter ownership to influence public opinion.) Autism was just a guess from sparse observations that I have. Having autism would not be an excuse, by the way. It's just orthogonal and isn't something people are assumed to have say in, like their skin color. Attacking that (calling emotionless Borg and so on) actually hurts any point about specific problems with his actions.
    - 4ggr0 5y ago
      Sorry, I got something wrong. He actually has Asperger's, not Autism[1]. It's not used as an excuse from serious people, but you maybe are aware of the fanboy-armies on social media who dismiss every criticism against their Savior. Since he admitted that he has Asperger's I saw this being used as an excuse in very weird ways. I misinterpreted your "Don't bother, nobody has any sympathy for autism here" comment as a way of saying "People are so hard on him, even though he has autism", so my bad. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57045770 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57045770
      - simondotau 5y ago
        Asperger Syndrome is autism spectrum disorder. It’s an outdated term but would have been the label used when Elon was diagnosed as a child. The existence of fanboy armies is entirely orthogonal to any discussion we’re having here. Their existence should have no bearing on how Elon is judged by a neutral observer.

by 4ggr0 5y ago

throwaway290 5y ago

There are plenty specific actions of his that we can criticise without getting into possibly unalienable traits that he may not have chosen to have.

simondotau 5y ago

Holy epic strawman there, Batman. No of course not. I didn’t say that. Nobody else said that. I don’t agree with that. I don’t know anyone else who agrees with that. I’ve never heard anyone say that.

4ggr0 5y ago
Ever since he dropped that he has autism I have heard this being used as an excuse, which really frustrates me. If you don't do that, perfect.
- throwaway290 5y ago
  I wasn't aware Musk admitted he has autism, I don't really follow him but read one article where childhood bullying was mentioned. (It probably caused insecurity which is part of the reason for his success and part of why I would expect him to attempt to use Twitter ownership to influence public opinion.) Autism was just a guess from sparse observations that I have. Having autism would not be an excuse, by the way. It's just orthogonal and isn't something people are assumed to have say in, like their skin color. Attacking that (calling emotionless Borg and so on) actually hurts any point about specific problems with his actions.
  - 4ggr0 5y ago
    Sorry, I got something wrong. He actually has Asperger's, not Autism[1]. It's not used as an excuse from serious people, but you maybe are aware of the fanboy-armies on social media who dismiss every criticism against their Savior. Since he admitted that he has Asperger's I saw this being used as an excuse in very weird ways. I misinterpreted your "Don't bother, nobody has any sympathy for autism here" comment as a way of saying "People are so hard on him, even though he has autism", so my bad. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57045770 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57045770
    - simondotau 5y ago
      Asperger Syndrome is autism spectrum disorder. It’s an outdated term but would have been the label used when Elon was diagnosed as a child. The existence of fanboy armies is entirely orthogonal to any discussion we’re having here. Their existence should have no bearing on how Elon is judged by a neutral observer.