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How is that in any way a detriment to his content? He's highlighting the utter failure of the product to provide the security it purports to. See: where he open

by Arrath 5y ago

How is that in any way a detriment to his content? He's highlighting the utter failure of the product to provide the security it purports to. See: where he opens the small safe with a plain kitchen butter knife Maybe if he was blatantly 'cheating', by using a battery powered sawzall or an oxy-arc torch to just blast off the lock. But he uses more mundane items, like the knife, or two crescent wrenches.

camtarn 5y ago
I think the Ramset videos might count as 'cheating' - there probably aren't many locks designed to take the force of a .22 blank powder charge to the body and survive. And the ones about shooting locks with a 50 cal rifle definitely count ;) Still really interesting to see the limits of lock endurance nevertheless - really underscores the idea that no lock is undefeatable, it's just about how far somebody is willing to go to defeat it.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  It's $100 at Home Depot, if people are gonna market locks as being tough it's a reasonable test.
  - camtarn 5y ago
    Huh, I had no idea they were that cheap! Always assumed it would be some multi-hundred-$ professional gadget.
taneq 5y ago
I meant that those are my favourite episodes, not that I see them as poor form. If you can trivially bypass an expensive "high security" lock without even bothering to pick it, that's something potential buyers should know! Too many companies focus on the fancy bling parts and ignore the fundamentals of security. It's like that 'secrets of physical pen-testers' talk where half the time they can bypass security with a combination of simple low-tech tools (eg. under-door tools) and creative thinking (eg. blowing cigarette smoke through a door to trigger the sensor). The most efficient way to get through security is to not have to break it at all. This goes for software as well as physical security.

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How is that in any way a detriment to his content? He's highlighting the utter failure of the product to provide the security it purports to. See: where he open

by Arrath 5y ago

camtarn 5y ago
I think the Ramset videos might count as 'cheating' - there probably aren't many locks designed to take the force of a .22 blank powder charge to the body and survive. And the ones about shooting locks with a 50 cal rifle definitely count ;) Still really interesting to see the limits of lock endurance nevertheless - really underscores the idea that no lock is undefeatable, it's just about how far somebody is willing to go to defeat it.
- maxerickson 5y ago
  It's $100 at Home Depot, if people are gonna market locks as being tough it's a reasonable test.
  - camtarn 5y ago
    Huh, I had no idea they were that cheap! Always assumed it would be some multi-hundred-$ professional gadget.
taneq 5y ago
I meant that those are my favourite episodes, not that I see them as poor form. If you can trivially bypass an expensive "high security" lock without even bothering to pick it, that's something potential buyers should know! Too many companies focus on the fancy bling parts and ignore the fundamentals of security. It's like that 'secrets of physical pen-testers' talk where half the time they can bypass security with a combination of simple low-tech tools (eg. under-door tools) and creative thinking (eg. blowing cigarette smoke through a door to trigger the sensor). The most efficient way to get through security is to not have to break it at all. This goes for software as well as physical security.