> the world today runs in an interconnected mode, is based on Services-as-a-Software-Substitute really now? the entire world? > People & nations dont respect

> the world today runs in an interconnected mode, is based on Services-as-a-Software-Substitute really now? the entire world? > People & nations dont respect the terms of service & licenses because they're in obesiance to the Empire, they do it because they just want in on, want access to the great vast online places that will kick em out of if they start mucking with the terms of service. you have discovered the old ways; many Empires of old operated exactly this way, with speech, coin, writ of passage, conscription and income stability, all checked at the borders, just in meat-space time, not nand-gate time. > Viewing the cyberspace we have as a legal framework the rest of the world accepts is false. wait, I have a catchy name for your insights "code is law." Well the "code" is new, not the "law".. your timer frame of reference only sees in seconds it seems. Law is quite old, and works socially in ways you are describing, as if only computer networks do that! > Companys operate in cyberspaces lightly regulated supranational domain, and states have minimal leverage they can apply to force behavior upon greater cyberspace. tensions between merchants (with ships post-1500) and stationary govt, are not new! West coast of Europe, top to bottom, check it out yourself. > The privilege of being interconnected to the global whole comes with a realizatuon that you are connecting to other places that wont follow your rules. Contrary to what the EU has insisted upon for itself. don't get me wrong, I appreciate this insightful rant, BUT. you are describing the "outpost" experience.. who is interacting with whom? via what format or forum? most people do not sit at the edges of civilization. > Other mations simply dont have the mainframes in their jurisdiction to boss around or use force against, so rebuffing their business is merely an impact on the bottom line. yes, cloud computing anxiety, agree this is serious among people who take power seriously. Not everyone is an artist or decadent Bohemian. > The legalistic modes are self enforcing, the terms of service dont need marshals to be enforced: we simply turn off access to violators, cancel their accounts. "we" LOL .. you must be pretty comfy to think yourself as immutable part of "we." Get ready, life may have some unpleasant surprises for you in the "free" world! > This isnt imperialism or legalism, it's just .. LOL - absolute control of vital access for others is not a mean scary arm of industrial-capitalistic-militarianism, its a big cuddly services machine, with instantly strict rules, thats all! not!