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I'll start with things that I'm happy to have in mac that didn't have in Linux :) - Cannot run a bunch of programs that stay on the topbar, like LINE (https://

I'll start with things that I'm happy to have in mac that didn't have in Linux :) - Cannot run a bunch of programs that stay on the topbar, like LINE (https://line.me/en/ https://line.me/en/), Kap (https://getkap.co/ https://getkap.co/), etc. I am a fairly heavy user of Kap and I love the interface, so this is probably the biggest differentiator for me. I can use Gimp, Inkscape, etc. on Mac so this is not really reversible. - The visual quality of the programs in Mac is generally a lot higher, and humans do like aesthetic visuals. For example the "CPU indicator" (iStat) I have in mac is an order of magnitude better, same as VPN tool, etc. - Upgrading the OS to a major version without worrying if I'll be able to boot next time. - (unfair?) 10+ hours of real-world battery usage, in Linux I could often get half of the advertised 5-6h battery life from the PCs if lucky - A lot more hardware stuff with the M1 Macbook Air, like the amazing touchpad, keyboard (in new models), etc. Some will say it's fair to compare them some won't, so I'll leave that up to you but summarize them all in this point. I want to try Asahi Linux when it comes out stable though! - Drivers all work very well, it's like they built them on purpose for their hardware (!). No more fighting with pulseaudio. However overall I've found them to be a lot more similar than dissimilar to my surprise, swapping from one to another as a normal everyday JS dev is fairly trivial. To add on the author's list, the biggest issue I have is with external USBs, I like having them encrypted for backups and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that with mac. I had no trouble with AndroidUSB, just install it and it behaves just like another filesystem program.

sudosysgen 5y ago
"A program doent work on another OS" isn't really a fair complaint. If you need a screen recorder widget that can be done. The visual quality of a well-themed KDE or similar DE is imo above and beyond anything macOS can do. In 2022, booting a new OS update is not a problem that exists anymore on Linux. If you use a rolling release, you don't even need to worry about major updates, they're not a thing. Meanwhile, update hell on macOS has been a big issue for me in the past. As far as drivers, ime on dozens of laptops there is no real issue beyond GPUs on laptop (Optimus) and WiFi, also pulseaudio isn't a thing anymore. But it's a "cry once" kind of situation.
- franciscop 5y ago
  I'm not complaining, I'm listing things that I'm happy to have in mac that I don't have in Linux, so def fair to list a specific program that is mac-only.
fsflover 5y ago
> - Drivers all work very well, it's like they built them on purpose for their hardware (!). No more fighting with pulseaudio. Same with Linux - if you choose appropriate hardware designed for Linux, instead of installing it on random hardware.
- memetomancer 5y ago
  "Lusers are stoopid" is no mantra, it is childish nonsense.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    This is not what I'm saying. Most people install Linux on their Windows-certified laptop and complain that suspend/WiFi/sound doesn't work. If you bought preinstalled, everything would be flawless (it is for me).
    - headsoup 5y ago
      And people continue to misunderstand that it is the driver manufacturers not supporting Linux that is usually the issue, not that 'Linux doesn't work with xx hardware' because of some inherent Linux failure.
mschuster91 5y ago
> the biggest issue I have is with external USBs, I like having them encrypted for backups and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that with mac Trivial using Disk Utility: https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/disk-utility/dskutl35612/mac https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/disk-utility/dskutl356... As for backups, I'd just use the disk as an encrypted Time Machine target.
vondro 5y ago
> Upgrading the OS to a major version without worrying if I'll be able to boot next time. Yeah, well my friend's Intel Mac mini got bricked when he updated from Big Sur to Monterey in the first week after release. Needed to send it to Apple service. IMO Mac updates are almost as broken nowadays as Linux updates were 7+ years ago when I daily driven it. I also upgraded my Thinkpad X220 from Windows 7 to Windows 10 when the update showed in my system, and everything worked without any reinstall since then.
viraptor 5y ago
> Drivers all work very well, it's like they built them on purpose for their hardware (!). No more fighting with pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is not related to drivers, but since you mentioned it, pipewire replaced pulse recently and it's way better than anything macos provides. You just can't operate on audio channels this way on a Mac. On the other hand, there's lots of drivers which are missing on a Mac or require obnoxious upstream apps. For example Logitech has a 300MB macos app for configuring my mouse, 200MB app for the camera, and printer/scanner comes with ads. They work... sind of. Same settings/devices are exposed in Linux by default, without extra work. > Upgrading the OS to a major version without worrying if I'll be able to boot next time. You've been lucky. I've lost the system twice due to updates. LINE works through Wine, if you ever need it on Linux. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13986 https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicatio...

sudosysgen 5y ago

"A program doent work on another OS" isn't really a fair complaint. If you need a screen recorder widget that can be done. The visual quality of a well-themed KDE or similar DE is imo above and beyond anything macOS can do. In 2022, booting a new OS update is not a problem that exists anymore on Linux. If you use a rolling release, you don't even need to worry about major updates, they're not a thing. Meanwhile, update hell on macOS has been a big issue for me in the past. As far as drivers, ime on dozens of laptops there is no real issue beyond GPUs on laptop (Optimus) and WiFi, also pulseaudio isn't a thing anymore. But it's a "cry once" kind of situation.

franciscop 5y ago
I'm not complaining, I'm listing things that I'm happy to have in mac that I don't have in Linux, so def fair to list a specific program that is mac-only.

fsflover 5y ago

> - Drivers all work very well, it's like they built them on purpose for their hardware (!). No more fighting with pulseaudio. Same with Linux - if you choose appropriate hardware designed for Linux, instead of installing it on random hardware.

memetomancer 5y ago
"Lusers are stoopid" is no mantra, it is childish nonsense.
- fsflover 5y ago
  This is not what I'm saying. Most people install Linux on their Windows-certified laptop and complain that suspend/WiFi/sound doesn't work. If you bought preinstalled, everything would be flawless (it is for me).
  - headsoup 5y ago
    And people continue to misunderstand that it is the driver manufacturers not supporting Linux that is usually the issue, not that 'Linux doesn't work with xx hardware' because of some inherent Linux failure.

mschuster91 5y ago

> the biggest issue I have is with external USBs, I like having them encrypted for backups and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that with mac Trivial using Disk Utility: https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/disk-utility/dskutl35612/mac https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/disk-utility/dskutl356... As for backups, I'd just use the disk as an encrypted Time Machine target.

vondro 5y ago

> Upgrading the OS to a major version without worrying if I'll be able to boot next time. Yeah, well my friend's Intel Mac mini got bricked when he updated from Big Sur to Monterey in the first week after release. Needed to send it to Apple service. IMO Mac updates are almost as broken nowadays as Linux updates were 7+ years ago when I daily driven it. I also upgraded my Thinkpad X220 from Windows 7 to Windows 10 when the update showed in my system, and everything worked without any reinstall since then.

viraptor 5y ago

> Drivers all work very well, it's like they built them on purpose for their hardware (!). No more fighting with pulseaudio. Pulseaudio is not related to drivers, but since you mentioned it, pipewire replaced pulse recently and it's way better than anything macos provides. You just can't operate on audio channels this way on a Mac. On the other hand, there's lots of drivers which are missing on a Mac or require obnoxious upstream apps. For example Logitech has a 300MB macos app for configuring my mouse, 200MB app for the camera, and printer/scanner comes with ads. They work... sind of. Same settings/devices are exposed in Linux by default, without extra work. > Upgrading the OS to a major version without worrying if I'll be able to boot next time. You've been lucky. I've lost the system twice due to updates. LINE works through Wine, if you ever need it on Linux. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13986 https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicatio...