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Our field is becoming more and more prone to people asking, perhaps even demanding a deeper meaning with our work. Who are we catering to ? Why are we doing it

Our field is becoming more and more prone to people asking, perhaps even demanding a deeper meaning with our work. Who are we catering to ? Why are we doing it like this ? What are the purpose of this ? If you want to work you will have to sacrifice yourself every now and again, to steer to a certain goal something (most likely not you) has set out. Deal with it and make damn sure you don't just quit because you think you know better. Programming and software development is filled with both young and old cats centered around them knowing better; having read somewhere or known someone, a tweet that has been liked etc. The evidence is shallow and subjective opinions strive like never before. People need to remember to celebrate others that sit down, churn out work no matter how it's done and with what tools. Smart people don't attack something that is not working, they conquer it slowly but certainly. And they don't talk to much about it, because guess what - it's their job.

majkinetor 4y ago
> Smart people don't attack something that is not working, they conquer it slowly but certainly. This! The best attack is showing better.
- ThalesX 4y ago
  I've recently tried this and got burnt. Spent a week of my own time doing a (what I believe to be) pretty serious improvement to both code structure and runtime behavior for a very green-field project. Showed it to Product Owner "This looks great to me, but you should talk with X see what he has to say". Talk to X, total subjective dismissal. Now I could go on the offensive and push my vision slowly but certainly, but I won't. Ultimately, I am not responsible for the product, nor for the product owner or colleague's (ignorant?) attitude, and truly I don't want to spend my time improving more than what is *wanted* in the project and my own craft. I would have better spent the time doing Leetcode than trying to improve this and I find it hard to see why I would engage in something 'slow but certain', against odds, for something that doesn't truly benefit narccisistic me.
  - majkinetor 4y ago
    Its not easy as that. You need to wait for good timing. Once things depend on you totally, you do it your way and use that opportunity to further pitch your story. Because before that its just a theory, and after that its battle afterhour. Its also true that this can not succeed always, but most of the time, given enough time, I will get what I want, the way I want it.
chasd00 4y ago
Many people, especially in tech, have such empty lives they demand their emotional needs be met at work. That’s how you end up with so much emotional management and “wellness” in the workplace instead of focusing on getting the job done by working together. They key phrase is “working together” which is different than living together.

majkinetor 4y ago

> Smart people don't attack something that is not working, they conquer it slowly but certainly. This! The best attack is showing better.

ThalesX 4y ago
I've recently tried this and got burnt. Spent a week of my own time doing a (what I believe to be) pretty serious improvement to both code structure and runtime behavior for a very green-field project. Showed it to Product Owner "This looks great to me, but you should talk with X see what he has to say". Talk to X, total subjective dismissal. Now I could go on the offensive and push my vision slowly but certainly, but I won't. Ultimately, I am not responsible for the product, nor for the product owner or colleague's (ignorant?) attitude, and truly I don't want to spend my time improving more than what is *wanted* in the project and my own craft. I would have better spent the time doing Leetcode than trying to improve this and I find it hard to see why I would engage in something 'slow but certain', against odds, for something that doesn't truly benefit narccisistic me.
- majkinetor 4y ago
  Its not easy as that. You need to wait for good timing. Once things depend on you totally, you do it your way and use that opportunity to further pitch your story. Because before that its just a theory, and after that its battle afterhour. Its also true that this can not succeed always, but most of the time, given enough time, I will get what I want, the way I want it.

chasd00 4y ago

Many people, especially in tech, have such empty lives they demand their emotional needs be met at work. That’s how you end up with so much emotional management and “wellness” in the workplace instead of focusing on getting the job done by working together. They key phrase is “working together” which is different than living together.