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I don't think that's the point of the article at all. It sounds like this piece is talking about how Christianity sort of inoculates people: they do believe in

I don't think that's the point of the article at all. It sounds like this piece is talking about how Christianity sort of inoculates people: they do believe in something crazy, but that crazy belief also requires them to disbelieve in lots of other crazy stuff.

noodle 18y ago
i suppose it could be read that way, although i took the slant based on the title. like, a "look who's irrational now" playing on the fact that atheists like to point at theists and say that they're irrational, but based on this information they also believe in irrational things.
- byrneseyeview 18y ago
  Well, yes. That is the point of the article. Atheists say that Christians are obviously irrational, and Christians argue that atheists are more irrational about some things than Christians are. I wonder what the average atheist would make of this information, but I'm not surprised that most of the people writing about it are theists.
  - noodle 18y ago
    again, what i was saying in my initial post was that all humans are irrational to some degree, which is why this boils down to a giant ad hom. just because a person is irrational does not mean that arguments or ideas that come from that person are necessarily irrational.
    - byrneseyeview 18y ago
      I missed the "Thus: GOD EXISTS!" line, apparently.
      - noodle 18y ago
        when did i ever say that was the point? all i'm saying is that the tone of this article is retaliatory, not explanatory or even-handed. it cleanly sets up the argument that atheists believe in nutty things, so their belief in atheism is also nutty too. christians don't believe in nutty things therefore their belief in religion isn't nutty either. etc.. this is because the 'negative' focus is on the atheists, with only positive focus on the theists. and no, i'm not an atheist.
jksmith 18y ago
What I read out of it is the tyranny of the "one truth," which is inculcated in many religious people. You know, I believe in the Holy Ghost, but not ghosts, or Islam produces fanatics, but let's proselytize around the world fanatically. It's about justifying your own, and eliminating all else -- how else do you get heathens to convert? Just my view.

noodle 18y ago

i suppose it could be read that way, although i took the slant based on the title. like, a "look who's irrational now" playing on the fact that atheists like to point at theists and say that they're irrational, but based on this information they also believe in irrational things.

byrneseyeview 18y ago
Well, yes. That is the point of the article. Atheists say that Christians are obviously irrational, and Christians argue that atheists are more irrational about some things than Christians are. I wonder what the average atheist would make of this information, but I'm not surprised that most of the people writing about it are theists.
- noodle 18y ago
  again, what i was saying in my initial post was that all humans are irrational to some degree, which is why this boils down to a giant ad hom. just because a person is irrational does not mean that arguments or ideas that come from that person are necessarily irrational.
  - byrneseyeview 18y ago
    I missed the "Thus: GOD EXISTS!" line, apparently.
    - noodle 18y ago
      when did i ever say that was the point? all i'm saying is that the tone of this article is retaliatory, not explanatory or even-handed. it cleanly sets up the argument that atheists believe in nutty things, so their belief in atheism is also nutty too. christians don't believe in nutty things therefore their belief in religion isn't nutty either. etc.. this is because the 'negative' focus is on the atheists, with only positive focus on the theists. and no, i'm not an atheist.

jksmith 18y ago

What I read out of it is the tyranny of the "one truth," which is inculcated in many religious people. You know, I believe in the Holy Ghost, but not ghosts, or Islam produces fanatics, but let's proselytize around the world fanatically. It's about justifying your own, and eliminating all else -- how else do you get heathens to convert? Just my view.