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If you are trying to come off as center and non-political why do you assert there's corruption in the Biden family and the only question is how much?

throwawayacc2 5y ago
- themitigating 5y ago
  No one brought up the Clintons. Provide a source that proves your accusation about corruption with the Biden's
  - throwawayacc2 5y ago
    - themitigating 5y ago
      You made the accusation about Biden. I'm asking for a source that proves that accusation.
    - contrast 5y ago
      For my part, I believe that large scale partisan cherry picking of facts is a terrible thing for free speech and democracy. Any adult should have learnt that starting with a kernel of truth, or flooding the debate with accusations and demands, are effective methods to mislead and deceive people. It is a proven method for suppressing facts. It lacks integrity, and serves the goals of the corrupt. It is strange to me that people perfectly aligned to the attack lines of corrupt politicians (in your case, the Republican flavour) bother pretending even to themselves that it is the corruption that really bothers them.
      - throwawayacc2 5y ago
        > It is strange to me that people perfectly aligned to the attack lines of corrupt politicians (in your case, the Republican flavour) bother pretending even to themselves that it is the corruption that really bothers them. This is probably the most tribal thing I ever read here on hn. So, I’m European, not American. I genuinely don’t care about your politics. My only interaction with it is news titles I inevitably run into. But I don’t have to be American, or Republican to notice your politicians ( and mine for that matter ) are deeply corrupt. From both sides. I think republicans are just as corrupt as democrats. I think Trump is just as corrupt as Biden as Clinton. I think they are all in it for themselves and will gladly sell their influence to the higher bidder, which is usually corporate interests. And, yeah, I actually wish things were different. But they’re not. So all I’m left with is to point out how ridiculous people like themitigating are.
  - rhagert 5y ago
    It is still under investigation (Hunter Biden's laptop is now acknowledged by the mainstream media in 2022). While not proof in the legal sense, oddities are easy to find: https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Finance%20Joint%20Report%202020.09.23.pdf https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Fin... On April 16, 2014, Vice President Biden met with his son's business partner, Devon Archer, at the White House. Five days later, Vice President Biden visited Ukraine, and he soon after was described in the press as the "public face of the administration's handling of Ukraine." The day after his visit, on April 22, Archer joined the board of Burisma. Six days later, on April 28, British officials seized $23 million from the London bank accounts of Burisma's owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. Fourteen days later, on May 12, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma, and over the course of the next several years, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer were paid millions of dollars from a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch for their participation on the board.
    - themitigating 5y ago
      Oddities aren't proof and the existence of a laptop isn't shocking. I own a laptop. The op made an accusation as if it was a fact
    - HyperSane 5y ago
      Hunter Biden is utterly irrelevant.
tdfx 5y ago
I think it's pretty widely accepted at this point that Hunter Biden repeatedly attempted to peddle the influence of his father for personal profit. Whether he was ever successful at influencing his father or whether his father participated is less clear, but the emails from his laptop don't paint an encouraging picture.

throwawayacc2 5y ago

themitigating 5y ago
No one brought up the Clintons. Provide a source that proves your accusation about corruption with the Biden's
- throwawayacc2 5y ago
  - themitigating 5y ago
    You made the accusation about Biden. I'm asking for a source that proves that accusation.
  - contrast 5y ago
    For my part, I believe that large scale partisan cherry picking of facts is a terrible thing for free speech and democracy. Any adult should have learnt that starting with a kernel of truth, or flooding the debate with accusations and demands, are effective methods to mislead and deceive people. It is a proven method for suppressing facts. It lacks integrity, and serves the goals of the corrupt. It is strange to me that people perfectly aligned to the attack lines of corrupt politicians (in your case, the Republican flavour) bother pretending even to themselves that it is the corruption that really bothers them.
    - throwawayacc2 5y ago
      > It is strange to me that people perfectly aligned to the attack lines of corrupt politicians (in your case, the Republican flavour) bother pretending even to themselves that it is the corruption that really bothers them. This is probably the most tribal thing I ever read here on hn. So, I’m European, not American. I genuinely don’t care about your politics. My only interaction with it is news titles I inevitably run into. But I don’t have to be American, or Republican to notice your politicians ( and mine for that matter ) are deeply corrupt. From both sides. I think republicans are just as corrupt as democrats. I think Trump is just as corrupt as Biden as Clinton. I think they are all in it for themselves and will gladly sell their influence to the higher bidder, which is usually corporate interests. And, yeah, I actually wish things were different. But they’re not. So all I’m left with is to point out how ridiculous people like themitigating are.
- rhagert 5y ago
  It is still under investigation (Hunter Biden's laptop is now acknowledged by the mainstream media in 2022). While not proof in the legal sense, oddities are easy to find: https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Finance%20Joint%20Report%202020.09.23.pdf https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC%20-%20Fin... On April 16, 2014, Vice President Biden met with his son's business partner, Devon Archer, at the White House. Five days later, Vice President Biden visited Ukraine, and he soon after was described in the press as the "public face of the administration's handling of Ukraine." The day after his visit, on April 22, Archer joined the board of Burisma. Six days later, on April 28, British officials seized $23 million from the London bank accounts of Burisma's owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. Fourteen days later, on May 12, Hunter Biden joined the board of Burisma, and over the course of the next several years, Hunter Biden and Devon Archer were paid millions of dollars from a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch for their participation on the board.
  - themitigating 5y ago
    Oddities aren't proof and the existence of a laptop isn't shocking. I own a laptop. The op made an accusation as if it was a fact
  - HyperSane 5y ago
    Hunter Biden is utterly irrelevant.

tdfx 5y ago

I think it's pretty widely accepted at this point that Hunter Biden repeatedly attempted to peddle the influence of his father for personal profit. Whether he was ever successful at influencing his father or whether his father participated is less clear, but the emails from his laptop don't paint an encouraging picture.