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> funding the defense of a democracy The funding coming on my back out of my labor and my taxes. Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthre

> funding the defense of a democracy The funding coming on my back out of my labor and my taxes. Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthrew the elected government, banned a number of political parties right after that, and which just banned the second largest political party recently? Some democracy.

dralley 4y ago
>Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthrew the elected government The "elected government" which restricted rights of speech and protests, ordered police to open fire on protesters killing more than 50 people, and then fled to Russia. >and which just banned the second largest political party recently The head of that political party is Victor Medvechuk, a close associate of Putin who proudly claimed that Putin is his daughter's godfather, who was charged with treason and put on house arrest a year ago for funneling money to the DPR / LPR whomst Ukraine has been at war with for 8 years, and was recently captured while attempting to flee the country in a stolen Ukrainian military uniform after escaping his house arrest. And the point of it, for those that don't know, is to remove the last shreds of legitimacy from any BS referendums Russia might try to hold in occupied territor, in which a minor pro-Russian politician whose party had low-single-digit support in previous elections is suddenly "elected".
signatoremo 4y ago
Not your taxes. Your compatriot’s tax money, collectively. I’m not aware of any Western country where the majority is against supporting Ukraine. You are the minority. > Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthrew the elected government You just parrot a blatant lie by Russia
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
Not intending to be inflammatory, but how would you feel about your taxes going to funding the invasion of Ukraine? I'm not a big fan of my country's military spending, and it's probably trivial even in terms of percentage of GDP, in comparison to that of the US, Russia or China. In terms of regime change "approach", if the US did manufacture the overthrow of the previous Ukraine government, it has the appearance of a much lower cost of human life than the approach Putin is taking. And I'm no fan of the US' "manifest destiny" ego trip but I don't want to get too far into whataboutism.

dralley 4y ago

>Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthrew the elected government The "elected government" which restricted rights of speech and protests, ordered police to open fire on protesters killing more than 50 people, and then fled to Russia. >and which just banned the second largest political party recently The head of that political party is Victor Medvechuk, a close associate of Putin who proudly claimed that Putin is his daughter's godfather, who was charged with treason and put on house arrest a year ago for funneling money to the DPR / LPR whomst Ukraine has been at war with for 8 years, and was recently captured while attempting to flee the country in a stolen Ukrainian military uniform after escaping his house arrest. And the point of it, for those that don't know, is to remove the last shreds of legitimacy from any BS referendums Russia might try to hold in occupied territor, in which a minor pro-Russian politician whose party had low-single-digit support in previous elections is suddenly "elected".

signatoremo 4y ago

Not your taxes. Your compatriot’s tax money, collectively. I’m not aware of any Western country where the majority is against supporting Ukraine. You are the minority. > Is this the democracy which started when it forcibly overthrew the elected government You just parrot a blatant lie by Russia

BLKNSLVR 4y ago

Not intending to be inflammatory, but how would you feel about your taxes going to funding the invasion of Ukraine? I'm not a big fan of my country's military spending, and it's probably trivial even in terms of percentage of GDP, in comparison to that of the US, Russia or China. In terms of regime change "approach", if the US did manufacture the overthrow of the previous Ukraine government, it has the appearance of a much lower cost of human life than the approach Putin is taking. And I'm no fan of the US' "manifest destiny" ego trip but I don't want to get too far into whataboutism.