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On the other hand, basic infrastructure being so unprotected, that a random guy from a random country, possibly even half a planet away, can stop electricity pr

On the other hand, basic infrastructure being so unprotected, that a random guy from a random country, possibly even half a planet away, can stop electricity production, is kinda sad. Yes yes, russia, current year, politics, government actors,... but again... why is it connected to the internet in the first place?

boringg 5y ago
Um renewable assets don't run on an information island. Weather forecasting is part of the equation as well as being able to keep up to date diagnostics for operations. "why is it connected to the internet in the first place?" Really? I'll give you points on security concerns but your other comment is borderline ridiculous.
- dylan604 5y ago
  If the weather forecasting for the windmills is as inaccurate as my daily local forecast, then I could see the systems just shutting down from inaccurate information! Seems like a centralized system looking at forecasts to predict energy needs that could then privately connect to the remote generating stations would be better than having them be internet connected.
  - boringg 5y ago
    Also, wind mills are for milling grains using wind power. And weather forecasting has many different levels of quality to it. I can't speak to your local capabilities but there different services that you can ascribe to. In terms of internet needs - there are many reasons that renewable assets need internet connectivity not strictly forecasting and it isn't unreasonable to be able to get secure connections.
chmod775 5y ago
> a random guy from a random country, possibly even half a planet away, can stop electricity production Did they though? From what I read they only lost remote control and the wind turbines continued to operate in "auto mode". Given stormy conditions you maybe could break some wind turbines remotely by somehow disabling their brakes/turning them into the wind, but if you only brick some electronics on a normal day, that's an easy fix. They're not complicated technology and replacement electronics/expertise are readily available.

boringg 5y ago

Um renewable assets don't run on an information island. Weather forecasting is part of the equation as well as being able to keep up to date diagnostics for operations. "why is it connected to the internet in the first place?" Really? I'll give you points on security concerns but your other comment is borderline ridiculous.

dylan604 5y ago
If the weather forecasting for the windmills is as inaccurate as my daily local forecast, then I could see the systems just shutting down from inaccurate information! Seems like a centralized system looking at forecasts to predict energy needs that could then privately connect to the remote generating stations would be better than having them be internet connected.
- boringg 5y ago
  Also, wind mills are for milling grains using wind power. And weather forecasting has many different levels of quality to it. I can't speak to your local capabilities but there different services that you can ascribe to. In terms of internet needs - there are many reasons that renewable assets need internet connectivity not strictly forecasting and it isn't unreasonable to be able to get secure connections.

chmod775 5y ago

> a random guy from a random country, possibly even half a planet away, can stop electricity production Did they though? From what I read they only lost remote control and the wind turbines continued to operate in "auto mode". Given stormy conditions you maybe could break some wind turbines remotely by somehow disabling their brakes/turning them into the wind, but if you only brick some electronics on a normal day, that's an easy fix. They're not complicated technology and replacement electronics/expertise are readily available.