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We've been operating in a mode for probably the last 15 years where cyberattacks are simply not treated as acts of war - more like nuisances. North Korea has b
by arcticbull 5y ago
We've been operating in a mode for probably the last 15 years where cyberattacks are simply not treated as acts of war - more like nuisances.
North Korea has been behind a ton of crypto hacks and thefts, and they're simply ignored. The Russians attacked Colonial Pipeline, and they're simply ignored. There's a list as long as my arm. For whatever reason we've decided cyberattacks are not war.
- _carbyau_ 5y agoI agree it seems weird. I see two things diluting response: 1. A malicious actor is abusing the scenario, but everyone thinks "If it was set up properly in the first place that wouldn't have been possible." Victim blaming in a sense. 2. Attribution is hard. There is likely more.
- ars 5y agoEspionage is also not considered war. Testing another country by provocative overflights or the like are also not war. I think as long as people are not killed it's not war.
- samus 5y agoEven if people are killed in some localized skirmish, or a plane gets shot down, it could be escalated but often isn't.
- pjc50 5y agoThe Russians shot down an airliner, killing 298 people, mostly Dutch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 There was very little international reaction at the time, which probably emboldened the Russian takeover of eastern Ukraine. But now Dutch artillery is being shipped to the Ukranian army.