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A severe heat wave is gripping India

19 points by lisper 5y ago

metadat 5y ago
It's summer in India right now.. What is this nonsense?
- firephonestival 5y ago
  How many seasons are you counting? It's an American outlet, they use four. Summer starts at the solstice in late June in the Northern hemisphere.
  - metadat 5y ago
    I'm going based on what my friends in northern India say, who are sitting there sweating and telling me it's the middle of summer. It's okay, this is another stupid article and I'm trying to stop kneejerk commenting on them because the stream of hucksters, self-congratulators, and general idiocy is endless :)
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  - klyrs 5y ago
    TIL https://www.javatpoint.com/seasons-in-india https://www.javatpoint.com/seasons-in-india
  - quantified 5y ago
    Which, to be fair, is based more on geometry than weather. I always got thrown by it also being called “midsummer” in various contexts long ago. 7 weeks around the solstice would mean summer is almost starting. Sweating your ass off in high heat does not mean it’s summer unless your definition of summer is based on the weather, either way. I’m intrigued by the relatively local definitions for season start/end from elsewhere, but things like monsoon need their due too.
  - usrn 5y ago
    My understanding is South Asia has summer when we have spring.
  - mxmilkiib 5y ago
    For me, and some others, summer starts on Beltane, the night going into the 1st of May.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    The modern astronomical seasons are offset by about half a season from the traditional, weather-based seasons; the dates of the start of each season are the traditional midpoints of the season (that is, e.g., the start of astronomical summer is the summer solistice which is traditionally midsummer.)
giraffe_lady 5y ago
This is going to kill so many people. It's going to happen this time, and soon again, and sooner after that, more and more frequently. This is the climate crisis. We are doing this intentionally while knowing the consequences. We are not going to stop. Protest doesn't work, advocacy doesn't work, fucking self-immolation doesn't work. Anyone with a conscience should be considering what will make it stop and how they can contribute to those actions instead.
- juanani 5y ago
- quantified 5y ago
  Dialling back modern lifestyles to a point where reading HN is no longer plausible or possible may be required. Certainly production of cement for concrete, and of fertilizer, will need to be ratcheted down. Who’s going to volunteer to collect all the urine that can replace some of that fertilizer? A lot of infrastructure construction and maintenance will disappear, because metal smelting and other coal-consuming processes will need to go away. Put up with less or no AC, don’t look for Amazon to deliver tiny packages, eat seasonal food or go without, lots of changes. Hate to say it, it’s too late for us and our children. Maybe our great-grandchildren can at least not be as badly impacted.
  - triceratops 5y ago
    > Certainly production of cement for concrete, and of fertilizer, will need to be ratcheted down. Is there a reason these can't be done with wind or solar power? 40% of the emissions in concrete are from burning fuel [1]. For fertilizer production, the main inputs deriving from fossil fuels are energy, and hydrogen [2]. Wind and solar can produce plenty of both. > metal smelting Again, why can't you use wind or solar energy for this? Iceland is a major aluminum exporter because geothermal power is so cheap there. > Put up with less or no AC, don’t look for Amazon to deliver tiny packages, eat seasonal food or go without These don't sound like terrible changes for much of the Western world. Large parts of Europe already don't have AC. Seasonal food was the norm even in the US until at least the 1960s. We've had barely 10 years of Amazon's 2-day shipping. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_concrete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_concre... 2. https://cen.acs.org/environment/green-chemistry/Industrial-ammonia-production-emits-CO2/97/i24 https://cen.acs.org/environment/green-chemistry/Industrial-a...
sg47 5y ago
Read The Ministry For the Future
- bamurphymac1 5y ago
  That first chapter is so terrifying.
thulle 5y ago
Article: > Portions of northern and western India, especially areas near the borders with Pakistan and Nepal, may endure the most extreme heat. Wikipedia: > Summer in northwestern India starts from April and ends in July, and in the rest of the country from March to May. [...] > The hottest month for the western and southern regions of the country is April; for most of North India, it is May. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_India Seems to align fairly well?

19 points by lisper 5y ago

metadat 5y ago

It's summer in India right now.. What is this nonsense?

firephonestival 5y ago
How many seasons are you counting? It's an American outlet, they use four. Summer starts at the solstice in late June in the Northern hemisphere.
- metadat 5y ago
  I'm going based on what my friends in northern India say, who are sitting there sweating and telling me it's the middle of summer. It's okay, this is another stupid article and I'm trying to stop kneejerk commenting on them because the stream of hucksters, self-congratulators, and general idiocy is endless :)
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
- klyrs 5y ago
  TIL https://www.javatpoint.com/seasons-in-india https://www.javatpoint.com/seasons-in-india
- quantified 5y ago
  Which, to be fair, is based more on geometry than weather. I always got thrown by it also being called “midsummer” in various contexts long ago. 7 weeks around the solstice would mean summer is almost starting. Sweating your ass off in high heat does not mean it’s summer unless your definition of summer is based on the weather, either way. I’m intrigued by the relatively local definitions for season start/end from elsewhere, but things like monsoon need their due too.
- usrn 5y ago
  My understanding is South Asia has summer when we have spring.
- mxmilkiib 5y ago
  For me, and some others, summer starts on Beltane, the night going into the 1st of May.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  The modern astronomical seasons are offset by about half a season from the traditional, weather-based seasons; the dates of the start of each season are the traditional midpoints of the season (that is, e.g., the start of astronomical summer is the summer solistice which is traditionally midsummer.)

giraffe_lady 5y ago

This is going to kill so many people. It's going to happen this time, and soon again, and sooner after that, more and more frequently. This is the climate crisis. We are doing this intentionally while knowing the consequences. We are not going to stop. Protest doesn't work, advocacy doesn't work, fucking self-immolation doesn't work. Anyone with a conscience should be considering what will make it stop and how they can contribute to those actions instead.

juanani 5y ago
quantified 5y ago
Dialling back modern lifestyles to a point where reading HN is no longer plausible or possible may be required. Certainly production of cement for concrete, and of fertilizer, will need to be ratcheted down. Who’s going to volunteer to collect all the urine that can replace some of that fertilizer? A lot of infrastructure construction and maintenance will disappear, because metal smelting and other coal-consuming processes will need to go away. Put up with less or no AC, don’t look for Amazon to deliver tiny packages, eat seasonal food or go without, lots of changes. Hate to say it, it’s too late for us and our children. Maybe our great-grandchildren can at least not be as badly impacted.
- triceratops 5y ago
  > Certainly production of cement for concrete, and of fertilizer, will need to be ratcheted down. Is there a reason these can't be done with wind or solar power? 40% of the emissions in concrete are from burning fuel [1]. For fertilizer production, the main inputs deriving from fossil fuels are energy, and hydrogen [2]. Wind and solar can produce plenty of both. > metal smelting Again, why can't you use wind or solar energy for this? Iceland is a major aluminum exporter because geothermal power is so cheap there. > Put up with less or no AC, don’t look for Amazon to deliver tiny packages, eat seasonal food or go without These don't sound like terrible changes for much of the Western world. Large parts of Europe already don't have AC. Seasonal food was the norm even in the US until at least the 1960s. We've had barely 10 years of Amazon's 2-day shipping. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_concrete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_concre... 2. https://cen.acs.org/environment/green-chemistry/Industrial-ammonia-production-emits-CO2/97/i24 https://cen.acs.org/environment/green-chemistry/Industrial-a...

sg47 5y ago

Read The Ministry For the Future

bamurphymac1 5y ago
That first chapter is so terrifying.

thulle 5y ago

Article: > Portions of northern and western India, especially areas near the borders with Pakistan and Nepal, may endure the most extreme heat. Wikipedia: > Summer in northwestern India starts from April and ends in July, and in the rest of the country from March to May. [...] > The hottest month for the western and southern regions of the country is April; for most of North India, it is May. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_India https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_India Seems to align fairly well?