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Lines 97-101 say that you can't even legally teach a child sex-specific pronouns until they hit 4th grade. So strange that you would miss what people are actua

Lines 97-101 say that you can't even legally teach a child sex-specific pronouns until they hit 4th grade. So strange that you would miss what people are actually upset about.

systemvoltage 5y ago
I think that's should be left up to parents. I personally don't want my kids to learn about sex at all until puberty. There is plenty of time in life to learn these things. So if anything, this bill gives freedom to whatever you please with your children as parents, but don't dogmatize them with controversial sex education as teachers. Btw, this is NOT a fringe view. The rest of the world operates like this including most progressive countries in Europe.
- madeofpalk 5y ago
  What are "sex-specific pronouns"? Are they making it illegal to say "he"?
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    Say? No. Teach it as the gender-normative pronoun to describe boys? Yes.
TimPC 5y ago
Is it really so badly worded that you could complain about a teacher teaching he and she? That’s going to be fun when the trolls start filing lawsuits.
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  Quote: "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards." They purposefully had to make it this vague so it could stand even the minimum of court scrutiny... unfortunately for them, the wording is impossible without explicitly stating what the purpose of the language of the bill is actually for, so... Every child is they/them and / or "students," not "boys and girls."
  - TimPC 5y ago
    I think they would make the argument that the simple and wrong "boys are he, girls are she" is age-appropriate and "developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards". This is a bad bill that severely infringes on transgender and LGBTQ rights.
    - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
      "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3" That's pretty explicit. What comes after is an addendum for other grades, not K-3.

Lines 97-101 say that you can't even legally teach a child sex-specific pronouns until they hit 4th grade. So strange that you would miss what people are actually upset about.

systemvoltage 5y ago

I think that's should be left up to parents. I personally don't want my kids to learn about sex at all until puberty. There is plenty of time in life to learn these things. So if anything, this bill gives freedom to whatever you please with your children as parents, but don't dogmatize them with controversial sex education as teachers. Btw, this is NOT a fringe view. The rest of the world operates like this including most progressive countries in Europe.

madeofpalk 5y ago
What are "sex-specific pronouns"? Are they making it illegal to say "he"?
- MisterBastahrd 5y ago
  Say? No. Teach it as the gender-normative pronoun to describe boys? Yes.

TimPC 5y ago

Is it really so badly worded that you could complain about a teacher teaching he and she? That’s going to be fun when the trolls start filing lawsuits.

MisterBastahrd 5y ago
Quote: "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards." They purposefully had to make it this vague so it could stand even the minimum of court scrutiny... unfortunately for them, the wording is impossible without explicitly stating what the purpose of the language of the bill is actually for, so... Every child is they/them and / or "students," not "boys and girls."
- TimPC 5y ago
  I think they would make the argument that the simple and wrong "boys are he, girls are she" is age-appropriate and "developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards". This is a bad bill that severely infringes on transgender and LGBTQ rights.
  - MisterBastahrd 5y ago
    "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3" That's pretty explicit. What comes after is an addendum for other grades, not K-3.