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Makes me wonder how Twitter employees internally are handling the news. If they are celebrating or commiserating?

mostlysimilar 4y ago
Twitter Locks Down Product Changes After Agreeing to Musk Bid - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-locks-down-product-changes-195751959.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-locks-down-product-ch...
- brink 4y ago
  Looks like a wise move to keep potential destructive protests at bay.
  - daenz 4y ago
    Yep. I imagine Twitter has a employee base with a very strong activist streak. I'm sure some of them wouldn't mind martyring themselves to make a virtuous statement.
    - dominotw 4y ago
      only because the job market is so good.
      - systemvoltage 4y ago
        Substack made it quite clear: https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1511376638487019524?lang=en https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1511376638487019524?... Personally, I think this is great. Leave your activism at home and don't bring that to work.
      - daenz 4y ago
        I don't think it's very good to saboteurs.
- memish 4y ago
  > Twitter imposed the temporary ban to keep employees who may be miffed about the deal from “going rogue,” according to one of the people. What could a rogue employee do?
  - notreallyserio 4y ago
    Create a repo for sharing the algorithm!
  - MikeKusold 4y ago
    Twitter has a history with this. - Rogue Twitter Employee Briefly Shuts Down Trump's Account [0] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-twitter-deleted.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-twitter...
  - jameshart 4y ago
    There was a case in 2017 of a Twitter employee who deleted Donald Trump’s account for 11 minutes. In 2020 hackers who gained access to Twitter admin tools that were - at the time - apparently accessible to thousands of employees were able to use that access to compromise multiple verified (blue check) Twitter accounts including Jeff Bezos, Barack Obama and Bill Gates. They used it to promote a lame Bitcoin scam. In the aftermath of that things were supposedly tightened up a little but don’t doubt a Twitter employee could do some damage.
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    Once upon a time they could perform all sorts of admin-level actions. One of my friends was there back in the day and said you could literally delete someone's account or use the built-in impersonation to see someone else's DMs. Another thing they could do back then was leak PII of specific accounts. I think it was the Saudis who paid someone to get someone's name. A friend of mine was part of the FBI team that caught one of those spies.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    Insider risk is hard as heck.
  - 4y ago
- temp8964 4y ago
  Thanks! Good to know. I was actually wondering some people may want to remove traces of what they have been doing. I wish someday we can see the internal communications lead to the Hunter Biden laptop story ban.
- thejackgoode 4y ago
  Are there precedents of this? This looks like there is not much trust internally. I doubt this was the first Elon’s decision
  - daenz 4y ago
    The level of trust is to be expected from a company like this imo. We're in an information war all around us. Spies, saboteurs, etc, are all part of a war, and we just witnessed a coup of leadership.
  - saagarjha 4y ago
    Well you’re reading about it here so clearly there are employees who aren’t above breaking the rules a bit ;)
datalopers 4y ago
Sell RSUs and get out.
philjohn 4y ago
Wonder if their RSU grants have a clause that converts them to cash in the event of a takeover. And having been in a company that was taken over, it's a mixture of emotions - is my job safe, will this be the same culture I joined for etc. etc.
- bogomipz 4y ago
  >"Wonder if their RSU grants have a clause that converts them to cash in the event of a takeover" This is interesting question since RSUs are a big part of total comp but how are unvested RSUs dealt with when the stock is retired? Are those put on a future cash comp schedule? And if so at what conversion rate?
  - philjohn 4y ago
    The last place I worked had an explicit clause in the RSU agreement that essentially said "if we get bought the price per share for unvested stock will be given to you as cash".
    - bogomipz 4y ago
      I'm curious was the complete cash out immediate or did it assume the same schedule as the vesting? I'm guessing if the cash out is immediate the company would then run the risk that those people might exit?
      - philjohn 4y ago
        I believe it was immediate, but I don't have the grant document anymore to check.
coffeeblack 4y ago
There are probably some secret celebration.
syshum 4y ago
I am sure there is a small set of Vocal employee's blasting internal communications with the end of the world messages, a majority of employee's just wanting to keep working and get their salary, and a different small set of employees hoping Elon purges the first set of employee's making the work place better.
paulpauper 4y ago
I am sure those with in the money options are happy

Twitter Locks Down Product Changes After Agreeing to Musk Bid - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-locks-down-product-changes-195751959.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-locks-down-product-ch...

brink 4y ago
Looks like a wise move to keep potential destructive protests at bay.
- daenz 4y ago
  Yep. I imagine Twitter has a employee base with a very strong activist streak. I'm sure some of them wouldn't mind martyring themselves to make a virtuous statement.
  - dominotw 4y ago
    only because the job market is so good.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      Substack made it quite clear: https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1511376638487019524?lang=en https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1511376638487019524?... Personally, I think this is great. Leave your activism at home and don't bring that to work.
    - daenz 4y ago
      I don't think it's very good to saboteurs.
memish 4y ago
> Twitter imposed the temporary ban to keep employees who may be miffed about the deal from “going rogue,” according to one of the people. What could a rogue employee do?
- notreallyserio 4y ago
  Create a repo for sharing the algorithm!
- MikeKusold 4y ago
  Twitter has a history with this. - Rogue Twitter Employee Briefly Shuts Down Trump's Account [0] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-twitter-deleted.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-twitter...
- jameshart 4y ago
  There was a case in 2017 of a Twitter employee who deleted Donald Trump’s account for 11 minutes. In 2020 hackers who gained access to Twitter admin tools that were - at the time - apparently accessible to thousands of employees were able to use that access to compromise multiple verified (blue check) Twitter accounts including Jeff Bezos, Barack Obama and Bill Gates. They used it to promote a lame Bitcoin scam. In the aftermath of that things were supposedly tightened up a little but don’t doubt a Twitter employee could do some damage.
- renewiltord 4y ago
  Once upon a time they could perform all sorts of admin-level actions. One of my friends was there back in the day and said you could literally delete someone's account or use the built-in impersonation to see someone else's DMs. Another thing they could do back then was leak PII of specific accounts. I think it was the Saudis who paid someone to get someone's name. A friend of mine was part of the FBI team that caught one of those spies.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  Insider risk is hard as heck.
- 4y ago
temp8964 4y ago
Thanks! Good to know. I was actually wondering some people may want to remove traces of what they have been doing. I wish someday we can see the internal communications lead to the Hunter Biden laptop story ban.
thejackgoode 4y ago
Are there precedents of this? This looks like there is not much trust internally. I doubt this was the first Elon’s decision
- daenz 4y ago
  The level of trust is to be expected from a company like this imo. We're in an information war all around us. Spies, saboteurs, etc, are all part of a war, and we just witnessed a coup of leadership.
- saagarjha 4y ago
  Well you’re reading about it here so clearly there are employees who aren’t above breaking the rules a bit ;)

datalopers 4y ago

Sell RSUs and get out.

philjohn 4y ago

Wonder if their RSU grants have a clause that converts them to cash in the event of a takeover. And having been in a company that was taken over, it's a mixture of emotions - is my job safe, will this be the same culture I joined for etc. etc.

bogomipz 4y ago
>"Wonder if their RSU grants have a clause that converts them to cash in the event of a takeover" This is interesting question since RSUs are a big part of total comp but how are unvested RSUs dealt with when the stock is retired? Are those put on a future cash comp schedule? And if so at what conversion rate?
- philjohn 4y ago
  The last place I worked had an explicit clause in the RSU agreement that essentially said "if we get bought the price per share for unvested stock will be given to you as cash".
  - bogomipz 4y ago
    I'm curious was the complete cash out immediate or did it assume the same schedule as the vesting? I'm guessing if the cash out is immediate the company would then run the risk that those people might exit?
    - philjohn 4y ago
      I believe it was immediate, but I don't have the grant document anymore to check.

coffeeblack 4y ago

There are probably some secret celebration.

syshum 4y ago

I am sure there is a small set of Vocal employee's blasting internal communications with the end of the world messages, a majority of employee's just wanting to keep working and get their salary, and a different small set of employees hoping Elon purges the first set of employee's making the work place better.

paulpauper 4y ago

I am sure those with in the money options are happy