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This just looks like a bezos acquisition of Washington Post but more modern if you ask me. Given sentiment from subordinates and Elon's affinity for doing drugs

This just looks like a bezos acquisition of Washington Post but more modern if you ask me. Given sentiment from subordinates and Elon's affinity for doing drugs with pop stars i don't expect his ownership of twitter to be anything other than abusive at best.

monkeywork 5y ago
Honestly what diff if he does drugs with pop stars, How does that neg impact his contribution over someone else?
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fleddr 5y ago
I'm thinking Twitter is in dire need for a little of his "abuse". It's a dysfunctional company, product and community. I think Musk's abuse should be seen in a larger context. Not as an excuse, rather as an explanation. He takes on seeming impossible missions and is then ruthless in achieving them. Anything that gets in the way has to go, from employees to institutions. You can debate whether these methods are required to achieve the results or not, I wouldn't know the answer to that. But I do believe he's not intentionally abusive like some evil villain. He's autistic. His mind doesn't work like the mind of most of us. He cuts straight through politics and social rituals and doesn't read them or comply with them like the rest of us. You could say he's not good at people things, and perhaps that's why he overachieves.
- Consultant32452 5y ago
  It's really hard explaining to people how the brain of an autistic person works. Most people are quite happy to accommodate the special needs of a person with one leg. But you show them a person whose disability means they don't comply with your social rituals and have an abrasive personality and suddenly it's time to moralize.
- tmp_anon_22 5y ago
  Elon Musk is a personality that gets full credit for all successes he participates in and receives little criticism for the things he fails at. Like the time he pledged $6B to the EU to solve world hunger but then fell off the face of the Earth when it came time to collect. Please look into the history of his companies, Musk is first and foremost a financier who among other things purchases the "Founder" title when buying companies.
  - fleddr 5y ago
    I feel silly to have to defend him again, but you misrepresented what happened. Grossly. The chief of the UN food program, so most definitely not the EU, claimed that 2% of Musk's wealth would solve world hunger. Musk invites them to do the math, and would agree to provide such funds if the claim were to be true. They couldn't produce a sane plan. Instead the idea was to give 40 million people free money, for one year. Which is great, but it's not a sustainable approach or way to "solve world hunger". So the UN was bluffing and the bluff was called. Musk did not bluff as immediately after, he donated 5.7B of his wealth to an undisclosed charity (on record with the SEC). I guess this shows the power of narratives. Musk is a rogue character but if there ever was a technical or economical way to solve world hunger, I'd put my money on Musk.
    - krainboltgreene 5y ago
      Just to be clear this isn't what happened and is almost a copy and paste of what Musk fans say happened, despite it being literally in the public.
      - fleddr 5y ago
        Just to be clear, you didn't say anything, so you're not clear. The actual tweets, UN claim, and donation are in the open: https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donation-weeks-after-asking-un-world-hunger/ https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donatio...
    - ModernMech 5y ago
farias0 5y ago
I for one am very sympathetic towards Elon Musk. I know there are dozens of ways to problematize him, and I'm not being dismissive towards them, but unlike most billionaires I think he's ultimately a well intentioned idealistic at his core, and most of his projects seem to come from a place of trying to make a positive difference in the world (electric cars, space exploration, alleviating urban hell, human augmentation, now free speech). So, I believe he has the means, the will and the competence to make a difference. If billionaires will keep existing this is the kind I want to see more of. If you think I'm being naive or blind please feel free to explain me how. I'm almost eager to have my mind changed.
strulovich 5y ago
Bezos paid $250M for WaPo, for an old fashioned thing. Musk is paying $44B, 176 times more. Seems different.
- smrtinsert 5y ago
  And besoz mileage out of that got a lot more fuel than filler. Elon is going to be looking for buyers in a few years at great discount

monkeywork 5y ago

Honestly what diff if he does drugs with pop stars, How does that neg impact his contribution over someone else?

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fleddr 5y ago

I'm thinking Twitter is in dire need for a little of his "abuse". It's a dysfunctional company, product and community. I think Musk's abuse should be seen in a larger context. Not as an excuse, rather as an explanation. He takes on seeming impossible missions and is then ruthless in achieving them. Anything that gets in the way has to go, from employees to institutions. You can debate whether these methods are required to achieve the results or not, I wouldn't know the answer to that. But I do believe he's not intentionally abusive like some evil villain. He's autistic. His mind doesn't work like the mind of most of us. He cuts straight through politics and social rituals and doesn't read them or comply with them like the rest of us. You could say he's not good at people things, and perhaps that's why he overachieves.

Consultant32452 5y ago
It's really hard explaining to people how the brain of an autistic person works. Most people are quite happy to accommodate the special needs of a person with one leg. But you show them a person whose disability means they don't comply with your social rituals and have an abrasive personality and suddenly it's time to moralize.
tmp_anon_22 5y ago
Elon Musk is a personality that gets full credit for all successes he participates in and receives little criticism for the things he fails at. Like the time he pledged $6B to the EU to solve world hunger but then fell off the face of the Earth when it came time to collect. Please look into the history of his companies, Musk is first and foremost a financier who among other things purchases the "Founder" title when buying companies.
- fleddr 5y ago
  I feel silly to have to defend him again, but you misrepresented what happened. Grossly. The chief of the UN food program, so most definitely not the EU, claimed that 2% of Musk's wealth would solve world hunger. Musk invites them to do the math, and would agree to provide such funds if the claim were to be true. They couldn't produce a sane plan. Instead the idea was to give 40 million people free money, for one year. Which is great, but it's not a sustainable approach or way to "solve world hunger". So the UN was bluffing and the bluff was called. Musk did not bluff as immediately after, he donated 5.7B of his wealth to an undisclosed charity (on record with the SEC). I guess this shows the power of narratives. Musk is a rogue character but if there ever was a technical or economical way to solve world hunger, I'd put my money on Musk.
  - krainboltgreene 5y ago
    Just to be clear this isn't what happened and is almost a copy and paste of what Musk fans say happened, despite it being literally in the public.
    - fleddr 5y ago
      Just to be clear, you didn't say anything, so you're not clear. The actual tweets, UN claim, and donation are in the open: https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donation-weeks-after-asking-un-world-hunger/ https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/elon-musk-5-7-billion-donatio...
  - ModernMech 5y ago

farias0 5y ago

I for one am very sympathetic towards Elon Musk. I know there are dozens of ways to problematize him, and I'm not being dismissive towards them, but unlike most billionaires I think he's ultimately a well intentioned idealistic at his core, and most of his projects seem to come from a place of trying to make a positive difference in the world (electric cars, space exploration, alleviating urban hell, human augmentation, now free speech). So, I believe he has the means, the will and the competence to make a difference. If billionaires will keep existing this is the kind I want to see more of. If you think I'm being naive or blind please feel free to explain me how. I'm almost eager to have my mind changed.

strulovich 5y ago

Bezos paid $250M for WaPo, for an old fashioned thing. Musk is paying $44B, 176 times more. Seems different.

smrtinsert 5y ago
And besoz mileage out of that got a lot more fuel than filler. Elon is going to be looking for buyers in a few years at great discount