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Already done a few months back. Also logged out from Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp and removed those apps from my phone too.

Markoff 4y ago
One of these is not like the rest and it doesn't make sense to remove it.
- rglullis 4y ago
  WhatsApp is not a social network, but it is owned by Big Tech and is being exploited to monetize users attention. Also, the conversations may be encrypted, but the metadata (the really interesting part for FB) is being mined. Good on OP that they got it out of their device.
  - Markoff 4y ago
    Good luck communicating with people without using Big Tech products. I just wonder what operating system they use in their mobile device considering Android and iOS are both developed by Big Tech. I would also like to know how is WhatsApp exploited to keep my attention, you think I randomly search for users or not even sure how could I keep attention to it without actually writing or reading messages.
    - rglullis 4y ago
      In Brazil, e.g, WhatsApp is the facto tool used by people to talk with their doctors, to order food from a restaurant or for group chat with hundreds/thousands of users, some of them political or sensitive in nature. Facebook can correlate your messaging partners, location and even time to know what ads to offer you on their other properties. > Good luck communicating with people without using Big Tech products. There are alternatives. Signal is already known even by non-techies. Matrix is not perfect, but usable and it can be setup in a way to bridge with other protocols, like Discord, Telegram, XMPP and even whatsapp.
      - Markoff 4y ago
        That's all nice except I don't use any other Facebook product besides Whatsapp. And what device and operating system not from Big Tech you use to run these "alternatives"?
        rglullis 4y ago
        > I don't use any other Facebook product besides Whatsapp. You are still being tracked, your data is still being available to every site you visit and has tracking codes from Facebook and your data can still end up on some shady exchange. > what device and operating system not from Big Tech you use to run these "alternatives" I am running /e/OS, an Android base without Google bits, on a Fairphone 3. It has its own app store that proxies to Google's, so you can use any app that works with microg. You can also use F-Droid, which gives you a huge catalog of FOSS alternatives.

Markoff 4y ago

One of these is not like the rest and it doesn't make sense to remove it.

rglullis 4y ago
WhatsApp is not a social network, but it is owned by Big Tech and is being exploited to monetize users attention. Also, the conversations may be encrypted, but the metadata (the really interesting part for FB) is being mined. Good on OP that they got it out of their device.
- Markoff 4y ago
  Good luck communicating with people without using Big Tech products. I just wonder what operating system they use in their mobile device considering Android and iOS are both developed by Big Tech. I would also like to know how is WhatsApp exploited to keep my attention, you think I randomly search for users or not even sure how could I keep attention to it without actually writing or reading messages.
  - rglullis 4y ago
    In Brazil, e.g, WhatsApp is the facto tool used by people to talk with their doctors, to order food from a restaurant or for group chat with hundreds/thousands of users, some of them political or sensitive in nature. Facebook can correlate your messaging partners, location and even time to know what ads to offer you on their other properties. > Good luck communicating with people without using Big Tech products. There are alternatives. Signal is already known even by non-techies. Matrix is not perfect, but usable and it can be setup in a way to bridge with other protocols, like Discord, Telegram, XMPP and even whatsapp.
    - Markoff 4y ago
      That's all nice except I don't use any other Facebook product besides Whatsapp. And what device and operating system not from Big Tech you use to run these "alternatives"?
      - rglullis 4y ago
        > I don't use any other Facebook product besides Whatsapp. You are still being tracked, your data is still being available to every site you visit and has tracking codes from Facebook and your data can still end up on some shady exchange. > what device and operating system not from Big Tech you use to run these "alternatives" I am running /e/OS, an Android base without Google bits, on a Fairphone 3. It has its own app store that proxies to Google's, so you can use any app that works with microg. You can also use F-Droid, which gives you a huge catalog of FOSS alternatives.