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And yet stuff like /r/BlackPeopleTwitter exists where if you don't "prove" you're black you're not allowed to post. There's a fundamental difference between bei

And yet stuff like /r/BlackPeopleTwitter exists where if you don't "prove" you're black you're not allowed to post. There's a fundamental difference between being required to comply with a legal order to take something down and taking down content because you decided someone _might_ not like it.

WalterSear 4y ago
> if you don't "prove" you're black you're not allowed to post. They do not. They lock down specific, controversial threads in this manner when outsiders start making confrontational comments. AFAIK this was done because the racist vitriol proved impossible to moderate.
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  It's still censorship, yet I'm not convinced censorship is a bad thing. Rather censorship is inevitable because the amount of peoples who want to speak is greater than peoples collective capacity to listen, so some sort of filtering process will and must take place. Reddit has huge "tyranny of the majority" problems and many communities spring up to essentially censor the speech of people outside of that community so people in that community can speak their mind without getting downvoted (I.E. censored) by the masses of Reddit. BlackPeopleTwitter has a system where all users that are not verified black users will be censored if the moderators deem it appropriate, which is perfectly reasonable. Is this racist censorship? Absolutely and yet it turns out that's not always a bad thing. I find much of the discourse on free speech to be an oversimplification to the point of self-parody. I support the intentions of free speech but not a literal interpretation of what it means, which is just never censor anybody ever. That literally doesn't work and can't work, it's not a thing that's possible outside of a thought experiment, you'll end up getting DDOSed by speech.

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And yet stuff like /r/BlackPeopleTwitter exists where if you don't "prove" you're black you're not allowed to post. There's a fundamental difference between bei

by ceeplusplus 4y ago

WalterSear 4y ago
> if you don't "prove" you're black you're not allowed to post. They do not. They lock down specific, controversial threads in this manner when outsiders start making confrontational comments. AFAIK this was done because the racist vitriol proved impossible to moderate.
- faeriechangling 4y ago
  It's still censorship, yet I'm not convinced censorship is a bad thing. Rather censorship is inevitable because the amount of peoples who want to speak is greater than peoples collective capacity to listen, so some sort of filtering process will and must take place. Reddit has huge "tyranny of the majority" problems and many communities spring up to essentially censor the speech of people outside of that community so people in that community can speak their mind without getting downvoted (I.E. censored) by the masses of Reddit. BlackPeopleTwitter has a system where all users that are not verified black users will be censored if the moderators deem it appropriate, which is perfectly reasonable. Is this racist censorship? Absolutely and yet it turns out that's not always a bad thing. I find much of the discourse on free speech to be an oversimplification to the point of self-parody. I support the intentions of free speech but not a literal interpretation of what it means, which is just never censor anybody ever. That literally doesn't work and can't work, it's not a thing that's possible outside of a thought experiment, you'll end up getting DDOSed by speech.