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The bit about "following the law" was so poorly thought out. Musk's comments at TED made it seem like he both: (1) confused Bill of Rights guarantee that the go

The bit about "following the law" was so poorly thought out. Musk's comments at TED made it seem like he both: (1) confused Bill of Rights guarantee that the government won't censor speech with some law that prohibits private companies from moderating speech on their platforms (not a thing) (2) failed to consider what it means to "follow the law" when your platform operates in multiple countries with incompatible laws. Do you comply with an authoritarian regime that demands you take down tweets (https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/24/22451271/police-india-raid-twitter-tweets-government-manipulated-media https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/24/22451271/police-india-rai...)? How about content that is specifically banned in some countries but not others, like Germany's strict hate speech laws (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/twitter-germany-nazis/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/twitter-germany-nazis/)? These are actual problems Twitter has had to deal with, and I don't get the impression that Musk realizes how complicated it it is.

iloveparis 4y ago
sidibe 4y ago
Noone could have known social media moderation could be hard! Just like in 2017 he had no way of knowing his cars wouldn't drive themselves cross country by 2018
tekknik 4y ago
How about we start with not banning US politicians?
- tigershark 4y ago
  Do you mean the one that attempted a coup and utterly failed, like all the things in his life? I don’t think there is another person in the entire world that managed to bankrupt not one but TWO casinos. And I think that you guys are very lucky that he didn’t succeed in his half-assed coup, otherwise you would help Russia instead of Ukraine, and would have become soon after that a bankrupt state with all the world against, same as Putin current track record.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    - tigershark 4y ago
      Who would be “the left”? I’m not even American, in the last decade I never voted for “the left”, but I can see clearly that there was a failed coup in the US on the 6th of January. What is your proof that it wasn’t a failed coup when all the world could see a criminal president incite a mob to attack the Capitol to stop the process to transfer the power to the new president? There were people with weapons and with zip ties ready to subdue and kidnap elected officials to keep that criminal clown in power. Or do you need proof of all the failures of that incompetent individual in life, the only person in the world to bankrupt THREE (not two as I remembered) casinos? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts
      - tekknik 4y ago
        Yay, more people not from this country telling us about our business. All Trump said was “give them hell”, which is the same thing the leftist say when they lose. Anybody that knows the American left knows this is purely political. They’re trying to smear him, charge him with a felony, so he can’t run again. That’s all this is. Tell me this, had they succeeded in delaying the vote, then what?
        tigershark 4y ago
        Are you serious? “Had the rioters succeeded in preventing the certification, Raskin said, Trump "was prepared to seize the presidency" and likely declare martial law” https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-attempt-coup-be-focus-us-house-hearings-lawmaker-raskin-says-2022-04-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-attempt-coup-be-focus... But for you obviously Reuters is part of the left and fake news. Only Fox News, OAN and Russia Tv are the harbinger of “Truth”, better known in Russian as “Pravda”. I bet that you also approve of him congratulating Putin for his invasion and subsequent genocide… https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-genius-russia-ukraine-crisis https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-... “Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.” The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.” You are incredibly lucky that he still doesn’t have power, otherwise the US would have helped Russia instead of Ukraine. Hopefully all the traitors and Putin puppets will get what they deserve at some point, after this genocide is concluded.
- cowmoo728 4y ago
  What if a US politician purposely uses Twitter to incite an angry mob to commit a lynching? These are not just hypotheticals, internet platforms have driven mob violence at various scales in several countries. "Just don't ban US politicians" seems like an unworkable solution.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    Please provide evidence, otherwise your statement is opinion. Not everybody believes the lie that Trump caused Jan 6
    - nmz 4y ago
      Indeed, and Charles Manson also did not commit and cause any murder.
      - tekknik 4y ago
        This is still not evidence.
        nmz 4y ago
        You are right, he did not directly "cause" it in the strictest sense. Never did he say "storm the capitol" however. as a smart person. you should understand implications and metaphors and that many people know how to tiptoe the line between plausible deniability. and some can even dance on it. if you want to ignore this, then its fine.
        tekknik 4y ago
        So now we should hold people accountable for the things crazy people do based off what they say? As a smart person you should realize this is insane.
        nmz 4y ago
        See the charles manson example, also, most cults. idolatry usually leads to this. see also cult of personality. Also, yes. That sounds incredibly sane. Especially if they say "Lets have trial by combat" and other such calls to violence.
mlindner 4y ago
He personally considers Twitter to be an extension of the "town square", so he wants to apply the laws of the government and turn them into the operational bylaws of Twitter. If the US government allows it in a "town square" then it's automatically allowed on Twitter.

iloveparis 4y ago

sidibe 4y ago

Noone could have known social media moderation could be hard! Just like in 2017 he had no way of knowing his cars wouldn't drive themselves cross country by 2018

tekknik 4y ago

How about we start with not banning US politicians?

tigershark 4y ago
Do you mean the one that attempted a coup and utterly failed, like all the things in his life? I don’t think there is another person in the entire world that managed to bankrupt not one but TWO casinos. And I think that you guys are very lucky that he didn’t succeed in his half-assed coup, otherwise you would help Russia instead of Ukraine, and would have become soon after that a bankrupt state with all the world against, same as Putin current track record.
- tekknik 4y ago
  - tigershark 4y ago
    Who would be “the left”? I’m not even American, in the last decade I never voted for “the left”, but I can see clearly that there was a failed coup in the US on the 6th of January. What is your proof that it wasn’t a failed coup when all the world could see a criminal president incite a mob to attack the Capitol to stop the process to transfer the power to the new president? There were people with weapons and with zip ties ready to subdue and kidnap elected officials to keep that criminal clown in power. Or do you need proof of all the failures of that incompetent individual in life, the only person in the world to bankrupt THREE (not two as I remembered) casinos? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts
    - tekknik 4y ago
      Yay, more people not from this country telling us about our business. All Trump said was “give them hell”, which is the same thing the leftist say when they lose. Anybody that knows the American left knows this is purely political. They’re trying to smear him, charge him with a felony, so he can’t run again. That’s all this is. Tell me this, had they succeeded in delaying the vote, then what?
      - tigershark 4y ago
        Are you serious? “Had the rioters succeeded in preventing the certification, Raskin said, Trump "was prepared to seize the presidency" and likely declare martial law” https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-attempt-coup-be-focus-us-house-hearings-lawmaker-raskin-says-2022-04-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-attempt-coup-be-focus... But for you obviously Reuters is part of the left and fake news. Only Fox News, OAN and Russia Tv are the harbinger of “Truth”, better known in Russian as “Pravda”. I bet that you also approve of him congratulating Putin for his invasion and subsequent genocide… https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-genius-russia-ukraine-crisis https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/23/trump-putin-... “Trump said he saw the escalation of the Ukrainian crisis on TV “and I said: ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine … Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.” The former US president said that the Russian president had made a “smart move” by sending “the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen” to the area.” You are incredibly lucky that he still doesn’t have power, otherwise the US would have helped Russia instead of Ukraine. Hopefully all the traitors and Putin puppets will get what they deserve at some point, after this genocide is concluded.
cowmoo728 4y ago
What if a US politician purposely uses Twitter to incite an angry mob to commit a lynching? These are not just hypotheticals, internet platforms have driven mob violence at various scales in several countries. "Just don't ban US politicians" seems like an unworkable solution.
- tekknik 4y ago
  Please provide evidence, otherwise your statement is opinion. Not everybody believes the lie that Trump caused Jan 6
  - nmz 4y ago
    Indeed, and Charles Manson also did not commit and cause any murder.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      This is still not evidence.
      - nmz 4y ago
        You are right, he did not directly "cause" it in the strictest sense. Never did he say "storm the capitol" however. as a smart person. you should understand implications and metaphors and that many people know how to tiptoe the line between plausible deniability. and some can even dance on it. if you want to ignore this, then its fine.
        tekknik 4y ago
        So now we should hold people accountable for the things crazy people do based off what they say? As a smart person you should realize this is insane.
        nmz 4y ago
        See the charles manson example, also, most cults. idolatry usually leads to this. see also cult of personality. Also, yes. That sounds incredibly sane. Especially if they say "Lets have trial by combat" and other such calls to violence.

mlindner 4y ago

He personally considers Twitter to be an extension of the "town square", so he wants to apply the laws of the government and turn them into the operational bylaws of Twitter. If the US government allows it in a "town square" then it's automatically allowed on Twitter.