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You're suggesting that Windows is equal to Linux as an alternative to MacOS if you favor control and privacy???

by pkulak 5y ago

jolux 5y ago
Windows is by far the worst of the three.
- danamit 5y ago
  Not in this use case.
  - jolux 5y ago
    With regards to privacy and control, yes. There’s loads of telemetry you can’t turn off in Windows anymore, and you can’t even setup Windows 11 without an internet connection.
    - evilsetg 5y ago
      You can. Today I learned how. You just have to press Shift+F10 to access the console when it asks you to connect to a network and then enter 'OOBE\BYPASSNRO'. That is all. To skip the security questions set no password initially and then set it later using ctrl+alt+del.
      - jolux 5y ago
        Well TIL but that’s a bit silly. They should just give you a button.
      - pkulak 5y ago
        Lol. If something in Linux took that much convoluted process, people would say it was totally unsuited to all but the most nerdy sadists.
jeroenhd 5y ago
Windows doesn't come close to Linux in terms of privacy, but Linux doesn't come close to Windows in terms of reliability and professional software support (Photoshop, MS Office, etc.) without hacks and Github scripts. For the technically-minded Linux is an option, but for everyone else Windows at least allows you to firewall off any domain you choose. Sure, you'll probably break Windows Update in some way, but the Windows kernel doesn't try to bypass your settings (yet).
- RobertRoberts 5y ago
  > "Linux doesn't come close to Windows in terms of reliability..." I can't tell if you being extremely sarcastic or lack experience running both of these OS's...
  - xmprt 5y ago
    Linux is quite reliable. Maybe even more reliable in day to day use. However it occasionally breaks for me in very subtle ways and when it does break, I have to use technical skills to resolve the issue. That doesn't happen to me on Windows or MacOS. For those reasons, I don't think I'd suggest Linux to anyone who I didn't feel would be able to resolve issues on their own.
    - asddubs 5y ago
      I haven't really found windows to be that reliable, although I don't use it a lot. Lots of weird little issues and googling dll names, but maybe I'm just unlucky. a while back i tried installing vscode and it was literally just an all black window, until i installed directx or something along those lines. and that's just off the top of my head
    - californical 5y ago
      I got my parents on Linux Mint after their desktop died, which I fixed, but they didn’t want to buy a new Windows license. They are absolutely not tech savvy, but only use the internet and some super basic document editing & viewing. They got used to the system quickly and used it for 4 years, until the OS went out of LTS and I told them not to use it anymore… but still, they have no idea what a terminal is, no tech savvy, but still used it for their basic use-case for 4 straight years without issue! I didn’t even have to help them after the initial install. Couldn’t have been easier.

You're suggesting that Windows is equal to Linux as an alternative to MacOS if you favor control and privacy???

by pkulak 5y ago

You're suggesting that Windows is equal to Linux as an alternative to MacOS if you favor control and privacy???

jolux 5y ago

Windows is by far the worst of the three.

danamit 5y ago
Not in this use case.
- jolux 5y ago
  With regards to privacy and control, yes. There’s loads of telemetry you can’t turn off in Windows anymore, and you can’t even setup Windows 11 without an internet connection.
  - evilsetg 5y ago
    You can. Today I learned how. You just have to press Shift+F10 to access the console when it asks you to connect to a network and then enter 'OOBE\BYPASSNRO'. That is all. To skip the security questions set no password initially and then set it later using ctrl+alt+del.
    - jolux 5y ago
      Well TIL but that’s a bit silly. They should just give you a button.
    - pkulak 5y ago
      Lol. If something in Linux took that much convoluted process, people would say it was totally unsuited to all but the most nerdy sadists.

jeroenhd 5y ago

Windows doesn't come close to Linux in terms of privacy, but Linux doesn't come close to Windows in terms of reliability and professional software support (Photoshop, MS Office, etc.) without hacks and Github scripts. For the technically-minded Linux is an option, but for everyone else Windows at least allows you to firewall off any domain you choose. Sure, you'll probably break Windows Update in some way, but the Windows kernel doesn't try to bypass your settings (yet).

RobertRoberts 5y ago
> "Linux doesn't come close to Windows in terms of reliability..." I can't tell if you being extremely sarcastic or lack experience running both of these OS's...
- xmprt 5y ago
  Linux is quite reliable. Maybe even more reliable in day to day use. However it occasionally breaks for me in very subtle ways and when it does break, I have to use technical skills to resolve the issue. That doesn't happen to me on Windows or MacOS. For those reasons, I don't think I'd suggest Linux to anyone who I didn't feel would be able to resolve issues on their own.
  - asddubs 5y ago
    I haven't really found windows to be that reliable, although I don't use it a lot. Lots of weird little issues and googling dll names, but maybe I'm just unlucky. a while back i tried installing vscode and it was literally just an all black window, until i installed directx or something along those lines. and that's just off the top of my head
  - californical 5y ago
    I got my parents on Linux Mint after their desktop died, which I fixed, but they didn’t want to buy a new Windows license. They are absolutely not tech savvy, but only use the internet and some super basic document editing & viewing. They got used to the system quickly and used it for 4 years, until the OS went out of LTS and I told them not to use it anymore… but still, they have no idea what a terminal is, no tech savvy, but still used it for their basic use-case for 4 straight years without issue! I didn’t even have to help them after the initial install. Couldn’t have been easier.