>>...that to succeed in business, truth and honesty does not add any value... I wish we had an open forum on HN to call out all the times engineers have been f

>>...that to succeed in business, truth and honesty does not add any value... I wish we had an open forum on HN to call out all the times engineers have been fucked over in so many situations of acqui-hire-BS that has occurred. I know I am not alone in having companies build entire revenue streams around my efforts and contributions and fucked me over in the end after I set them on the right trajectory with my efforts. Its funny this came up, as while I was on my morning ride, I was lamenting about this very issue ; I was calling back a memory from a few years ago while I was building the Salesforce offices throughout the US... I had regular meetings with my CEO discussing my bonus. Which was to be about $30,000 for the completion of 50 Fremont in SF. They used a tool to track contribution to the efforts, and I had a pretty little graph showing my bonus payout based on what I was doing... (we were the technology designers for all their offices, I was the TPM who did the actual design, implementation, consultant and construction management of the LV/AV/IT/Sec/Facilities etc.. vendors et al - installed and configured every piece of networking equipment, maintained the IT project plan and etc.... I made this company millions. After completing the Chicago office - I was told that the project was closing and that I would be laid off ( I did the work of a team ) and that my bonus was $2,000. that "Salesforce hasn't paid us yet" --- This company, was denigrated all over the bay area, and I was literally hired to clean up their mess at multiple locations. Hospitals, tech companies, etc... They have a slimy sales and CEO, and while they seem all professional and moral etc.. they are not. David and Ken, bless your heart, for helping keep psychopath archetypes alive and well.