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I was on the other side of this: We had a remote worker who got a new job but then tried to hide it, collecting paychecks as long as possible. For any manager

I was on the other side of this: We had a remote worker who got a new job but then tried to hide it, collecting paychecks as long as possible. For any manager paying attention, it wasn't difficult to spot. He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urgency tasks, there was about a 50% chance that he would obviously be not working on it at all until the evening, despite being online all day. Eventually we let him go for non-performance, which wasn't too hard to document. Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume. He also burned the entire team (they figured it out) so he's not getting any positive references from anyway. It may work if you can find two jobs with two incompetent managers who aren't paying attention, but I don't think it's as easy as people suggest for any reasonably well paying engineering job.

justsomehnguy 5y ago
> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume As a non-US person this is the most ridiculous reason to inherent anything.
nscalf 5y ago
It's not a problem, he's just going to lie about ever having a second job and only report his first job. That's how this works, you have a primary job which is your "real job", and others which feed you more paychecks until they realize you're underperforming and you get fired. FWIW I'm not doing this, I'm just on the /r/overemployed subreddit.
b20000 5y ago
so why didn’t you pay him more so he would not need to juggle jobs?
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  As long as you can fire them and find a replacement for the same price, why would you ever increase pay? Especially for a worker that is underperforming?
  - b20000 5y ago
    more power to you if you can as easily replace people as you describe.
    - isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
      It doesn't take much to replace a dead weight.
- strikelaserclaw 5y ago
  Why do you think this is the case? Some people can never get enough, i know some people who complain so much that you'd think they were living in the streets but their household income exceeds 500k, it is just a mentality thing.
  - b20000 5y ago
    you don't know what financial challenges they are facing, so there is no point in arguing that 500K is enough for their household.
    - s1artibartfast 5y ago
      If 500k/yr isn't enough to meet your household needs, you don't have a financial problem, you have a personal problem.
      - b20000 5y ago
        like I said, none of your business
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Totally agree unless they want to complain about it to me. If a peer or employee tried to sell me a sob story about 500k not being enough I would tell them to hit the road
        b20000 5y ago
        again, you have no idea what’s going on with their life or finances. people find themselves in situations all the time they think would never happen. hope you never end up there.
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        I don't care what's going on in their life. If I'm ever in a position where I need more than 500k/yr, it will be my problem, not somebody elses.
- brianmcc 5y ago
  "You're massively underperforming and we can never contact you - have a substantial pay rise" isn't really how these things work...
BeFlatXIII 5y ago
> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume. He also burned the entire team (they figured it out) so he's not getting any positive references from anyway. Or he only lists the J2 from which he hasn't been fired.
giraffe_lady 5y ago
> He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urgency tasks, there was about a 50% chance that he would obviously be not working on it at all until the evening, despite being online all day. I think a few periods in my career could be accurately described like this. It was actually just a flareup of some severe mental illness but you can (and my employers certainly did) fire for it anyway, obviously. But I'm not sure your confidence in your understanding of the situation is truly warranted here.

justsomehnguy 5y ago

> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume As a non-US person this is the most ridiculous reason to inherent anything.

nscalf 5y ago

It's not a problem, he's just going to lie about ever having a second job and only report his first job. That's how this works, you have a primary job which is your "real job", and others which feed you more paychecks until they realize you're underperforming and you get fired. FWIW I'm not doing this, I'm just on the /r/overemployed subreddit.

b20000 5y ago

so why didn’t you pay him more so he would not need to juggle jobs?

s1artibartfast 5y ago
As long as you can fire them and find a replacement for the same price, why would you ever increase pay? Especially for a worker that is underperforming?
- b20000 5y ago
  more power to you if you can as easily replace people as you describe.
  - isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y ago
    It doesn't take much to replace a dead weight.
strikelaserclaw 5y ago
Why do you think this is the case? Some people can never get enough, i know some people who complain so much that you'd think they were living in the streets but their household income exceeds 500k, it is just a mentality thing.
- b20000 5y ago
  you don't know what financial challenges they are facing, so there is no point in arguing that 500K is enough for their household.
  - s1artibartfast 5y ago
    If 500k/yr isn't enough to meet your household needs, you don't have a financial problem, you have a personal problem.
    - b20000 5y ago
      like I said, none of your business
      - s1artibartfast 5y ago
        Totally agree unless they want to complain about it to me. If a peer or employee tried to sell me a sob story about 500k not being enough I would tell them to hit the road
        b20000 5y ago
        again, you have no idea what’s going on with their life or finances. people find themselves in situations all the time they think would never happen. hope you never end up there.
        s1artibartfast 5y ago
        I don't care what's going on in their life. If I'm ever in a position where I need more than 500k/yr, it will be my problem, not somebody elses.
brianmcc 5y ago
"You're massively underperforming and we can never contact you - have a substantial pay rise" isn't really how these things work...

BeFlatXIII 5y ago

> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume. He also burned the entire team (they figured it out) so he's not getting any positive references from anyway. Or he only lists the J2 from which he hasn't been fired.

giraffe_lady 5y ago

> He would swing between being eager to please and virtually unreachable. We didn't have many meetings or phone calls, but he had more scheduling conflicts than anyone else. On the rare occasion that we had high urgency tasks, there was about a 50% chance that he would obviously be not working on it at all until the evening, despite being online all day. I think a few periods in my career could be accurately described like this. It was actually just a flareup of some severe mental illness but you can (and my employers certainly did) fire for it anyway, obviously. But I'm not sure your confidence in your understanding of the situation is truly warranted here.