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If I buy a private jet and use it to fly around the world, people would have access to the same information as they do on Elon Musk. He wants the convenience of

If I buy a private jet and use it to fly around the world, people would have access to the same information as they do on Elon Musk. He wants the convenience of having his own jet, that comes with a cost.

bko 4y ago
Let's remove Elon Musk from this. If I buy a [legal private means of transportation] to travel, people should be able to track my whereabouts. Is this limited to private jets? How about private boats? Single engine airplanes? Or is there a price cap? Is a $50k plane allow you to maintain privacy? 100k? What's the cutoff? Should it be inflation adjusted? I'm just trying to understand
- pacerwpg 4y ago
  My comment was about the known requirements for air travel. You have to register your flight and that information is available. He has other options that would more safely guarantee privacy. If the privacy of your travels is more important to you than the convenience of having a private plane available, then you choose another option.
- stale2002 4y ago
  > Is this limited to private jets? How about private boats? Single engine airplanes? Or is there a price cap? Is a $50k plane allow you to maintain privacy? 100k? What's the cutoff? Should it be inflation adjusted? I recommend that you read this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki%27s_Wager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki%27s_Wager One does not need to answer literally every single edge case or scenario, to answer other more obvious questions. Elon Musk is a public figure. A random person driving a car is not. And everything in between is a spectrum, and we don't need to know the exact specific cutoff point to know the obvious answers here.
- majkinetor 4y ago
  How about a spaceship? Should spaceship flights be private? :)
- esarbe 4y ago
  You cannot remove Elon Musk from the discussion. He is a public figure[0]; the same discussion would not apply to you (I presume) or me (I know). What exactly a 'public figure' is depends on the given legal system. But its pretty clear that is a public figure, by any definition. He's among the most wealthy (some might say; obscenely wealthy) persons on the planet and thus enjoys outrages amounts of social and political leverage. Of course he doesn't enjoy the same rights to privacy as you and me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure
- baq 4y ago
  both civilian jets and big civilian boats are required to broadcast their position when under power, sometimes also when stationary. so yeah. you can't buy that kind of privacy unless you want a nation state air force on your six, or some kind of a patrol boat in case of a yacht.

bko 4y ago

Let's remove Elon Musk from this. If I buy a [legal private means of transportation] to travel, people should be able to track my whereabouts. Is this limited to private jets? How about private boats? Single engine airplanes? Or is there a price cap? Is a $50k plane allow you to maintain privacy? 100k? What's the cutoff? Should it be inflation adjusted? I'm just trying to understand

pacerwpg 4y ago
My comment was about the known requirements for air travel. You have to register your flight and that information is available. He has other options that would more safely guarantee privacy. If the privacy of your travels is more important to you than the convenience of having a private plane available, then you choose another option.
stale2002 4y ago
> Is this limited to private jets? How about private boats? Single engine airplanes? Or is there a price cap? Is a $50k plane allow you to maintain privacy? 100k? What's the cutoff? Should it be inflation adjusted? I recommend that you read this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki%27s_Wager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki%27s_Wager One does not need to answer literally every single edge case or scenario, to answer other more obvious questions. Elon Musk is a public figure. A random person driving a car is not. And everything in between is a spectrum, and we don't need to know the exact specific cutoff point to know the obvious answers here.
majkinetor 4y ago
How about a spaceship? Should spaceship flights be private? :)
esarbe 4y ago
You cannot remove Elon Musk from the discussion. He is a public figure[0]; the same discussion would not apply to you (I presume) or me (I know). What exactly a 'public figure' is depends on the given legal system. But its pretty clear that is a public figure, by any definition. He's among the most wealthy (some might say; obscenely wealthy) persons on the planet and thus enjoys outrages amounts of social and political leverage. Of course he doesn't enjoy the same rights to privacy as you and me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure
baq 4y ago
both civilian jets and big civilian boats are required to broadcast their position when under power, sometimes also when stationary. so yeah. you can't buy that kind of privacy unless you want a nation state air force on your six, or some kind of a patrol boat in case of a yacht.