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I don't think most of those people are saying Musk can't do this, just that it's going to make the whole site worse. There's a reason I prefer Twitter to 4chan.

I don't think most of those people are saying Musk can't do this, just that it's going to make the whole site worse. There's a reason I prefer Twitter to 4chan. They can do whatever they want with Twitter, but I don't have to use it. Which is exactly what everyone complaining about "censorship" on Twitter was told as well. If Musk wants to make Twitter more hospitable to trolls and harassers, then they're welcome to go annoy each other in their new paradise.

vmception 5y ago
Twitter with a proper /b/ section would be great though Thanks for the idea
- hemreldop 5y ago
- saboot 5y ago
  I comment this as a parody last week and it's now being promoted as a desired outcome the next week.
  - vmception 5y ago
    lol, let me check that out your threads are more so focused on the threat of more bigoted stuff I’m focused on how it would be a hilarious meme factory, amplifying the amusement park that twitter already is to 4chan levels of entertainment, while inheriting a much better more modern interface than 4chan if they tweak twitter just a little more Yeah that comes with crazy, I’m looking forward to it. I really like that “but muh advertisers dictate what I do” goes away when reducing the options for advertisers. This could be a big and lulzworthy shakeup for the overton window.
    - saboot 5y ago
      For some mysterious reason, no one, including you, gets specific about what type of content and memes will now be allowed.
      - vmception 5y ago
        Because we dont care
      - solveit 5y ago
        They're looking forward to 4chan but better... do they really need to?
    - dymk 5y ago
      4chan's /b/ is entertaining if you enjoy gore, racial epithets, homophobia, and literal nazis
      - vmception 5y ago
        Yeah its shocking I always find myself laughing at the speed and meme preparedness of the respondents though. Twitter has some of that but it really pales in comparison. People will just have to find a different forum if they want something else shrug I really like the potential for Elon to tell advertisers to pound sand since he wouldnt need to impress shareholders with the idea of ad revenue growth, and many people and organizations will still see the value of advertising there.
    - rootusrootus 5y ago
      > I’m focused on how it would be a hilarious meme factory I'd like to buy an Internet Experience without memes.
peepop6 5y ago
Honestly I find 4chan much less toxic than Twitter in practice. Like I can find some of the most horrible, infuriating and potentially illegal content on Twitter whereas on 4chan it's relatively rare depending on the board and the occasional shooting that gets posted on there first or whatever.
throwaway894345 5y ago
I didn't think it would be possible to make Twitter more hospitable to trolls and harassers, and I figured Musk's play would be minimizing bots, trolls, and extremists in order to attract the sane masses and drive up the stock price (sane people = better content = more ad/subscription revenue).
- noirbot 5y ago
  This is essentially the opposite of everything he's said about why he's looking to buy Twitter. It's all about him complaining that the "trolls and extremists" are being unfairly censored. He's all but said he wants to reverse Trump's ban. There's no world in which Musk is going to be anti-trolling. The dude literally started this whole thing BY TROLLING.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    "Trolls" is probably too broad a term since it covers "far-right trolls" as well as shitposters/clowners. Musk is against the former, not the latter. In any case, I'm excited about the potential to shake up moderation; my politics aren't "unfairly censored" by any means, but I'm having the most extreme, caustic positions shoved in my face all the time by an algorithm that optimizes for en(r|g)agement.
    - noirbot 5y ago
      Are you sure Musk is against the former? I don't have strong knowledge either way, but it's pretty hard to split that line. The recent history of at least the US far-right can be described as recruiting/evangelizing primarily via "clowning" and "shitposting" that seemed fun until it wasn't. Musk has been fairly open history about palling around with folks I'd easily describe as "far-right trolls", or at least only a few degrees away from them. I'm mostly unsure if I trust Musk, someone I associate with unfiltered mental garbage intended to en(r|g)age on Twitter to lead the vanguard to moderate out any of that.
      - throwaway894345 5y ago

vmception 5y ago

Twitter with a proper /b/ section would be great though Thanks for the idea

hemreldop 5y ago
saboot 5y ago
I comment this as a parody last week and it's now being promoted as a desired outcome the next week.
- vmception 5y ago
  lol, let me check that out your threads are more so focused on the threat of more bigoted stuff I’m focused on how it would be a hilarious meme factory, amplifying the amusement park that twitter already is to 4chan levels of entertainment, while inheriting a much better more modern interface than 4chan if they tweak twitter just a little more Yeah that comes with crazy, I’m looking forward to it. I really like that “but muh advertisers dictate what I do” goes away when reducing the options for advertisers. This could be a big and lulzworthy shakeup for the overton window.
  - saboot 5y ago
    For some mysterious reason, no one, including you, gets specific about what type of content and memes will now be allowed.
    - vmception 5y ago
      Because we dont care
    - solveit 5y ago
      They're looking forward to 4chan but better... do they really need to?
  - dymk 5y ago
    4chan's /b/ is entertaining if you enjoy gore, racial epithets, homophobia, and literal nazis
    - vmception 5y ago
      Yeah its shocking I always find myself laughing at the speed and meme preparedness of the respondents though. Twitter has some of that but it really pales in comparison. People will just have to find a different forum if they want something else shrug I really like the potential for Elon to tell advertisers to pound sand since he wouldnt need to impress shareholders with the idea of ad revenue growth, and many people and organizations will still see the value of advertising there.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > I’m focused on how it would be a hilarious meme factory I'd like to buy an Internet Experience without memes.

peepop6 5y ago

Honestly I find 4chan much less toxic than Twitter in practice. Like I can find some of the most horrible, infuriating and potentially illegal content on Twitter whereas on 4chan it's relatively rare depending on the board and the occasional shooting that gets posted on there first or whatever.

throwaway894345 5y ago

I didn't think it would be possible to make Twitter more hospitable to trolls and harassers, and I figured Musk's play would be minimizing bots, trolls, and extremists in order to attract the sane masses and drive up the stock price (sane people = better content = more ad/subscription revenue).

noirbot 5y ago
This is essentially the opposite of everything he's said about why he's looking to buy Twitter. It's all about him complaining that the "trolls and extremists" are being unfairly censored. He's all but said he wants to reverse Trump's ban. There's no world in which Musk is going to be anti-trolling. The dude literally started this whole thing BY TROLLING.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  "Trolls" is probably too broad a term since it covers "far-right trolls" as well as shitposters/clowners. Musk is against the former, not the latter. In any case, I'm excited about the potential to shake up moderation; my politics aren't "unfairly censored" by any means, but I'm having the most extreme, caustic positions shoved in my face all the time by an algorithm that optimizes for en(r|g)agement.
  - noirbot 5y ago
    Are you sure Musk is against the former? I don't have strong knowledge either way, but it's pretty hard to split that line. The recent history of at least the US far-right can be described as recruiting/evangelizing primarily via "clowning" and "shitposting" that seemed fun until it wasn't. Musk has been fairly open history about palling around with folks I'd easily describe as "far-right trolls", or at least only a few degrees away from them. I'm mostly unsure if I trust Musk, someone I associate with unfiltered mental garbage intended to en(r|g)age on Twitter to lead the vanguard to moderate out any of that.
    - throwaway894345 5y ago