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There's very little value in elementary-grade humor, though. It's not advertiser friendly. If Twitter turns into primarily shit posts of this caliber then it en

There's very little value in elementary-grade humor, though. It's not advertiser friendly. If Twitter turns into primarily shit posts of this caliber then it ends up being worth a lot less money than it is now.

solenoidalslide 5y ago
Shit posts are incredibly advertiser friendly. Most popular memes that define our current internet culture started out as juvenile shit posts.
- CydeWeys 5y ago
  > Shit posts are incredibly advertiser friendly. Show me advertisers who are happy to monetize on this exact content then.
  - glenstein 5y ago
    The current wave of it started with Old Spice TV commercials and Dennys Tumblr. From there it has spread to numerous other brands like Moon Pies, Sunny Delight, etc. Many snack and food brands were highly visible early adopters of this iteration of internet culture as a way to rep their brands.
    - CydeWeys 5y ago
      There's a huge difference between mean-spirited user-generated shitposts and quirky advertising campaign. You're talking about the latter. Crucially, an advertising campaign is carefully crafted and gets approval, whereas millions of shitposts you might potentially advertise online are not and do not, and many of them pose a brand risk to be associated with. So I ask again, show me examples of advertisers that enthusiastically advertise on shitposts.
      - glenstein 5y ago
        Sure, and no true scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. Your own chosen example was Elon Musk recent twitter history. Debating the difference between your chosen example and Dennys to identify an obvious principle that distinguishes them is asking people to play calvinball with you.
  - solenoidalslide 5y ago
    You mean advertisers who would be willing to target consumers who dislike how the incredibly rich have disproportionately large control of the economy? You also have advertisers willing to target the outrage crowd, so they would also stand to gain from the post. Not all advertisers care about the things that advertisers from companies like Disney or the NFL care about.
EricE 5y ago
What an utter joy you must be to live with. The utter lack of any sense of humor is something I seriously hope Elon can continue to reverse. People seriously need to get over themselves and stop seeking out infinite ways to be offended. Live and let live! Life is too short to have sticks so firmly implanted so deeply.
- nullc 5y ago
  That's an unnecessarily personal reply. I've met the person you're responding to and think he's a lot of fun. ... and I say this as someone who agrees with the argument that twitter is deeply toxic, that it systematically rewards, promotes, and monetizes toxicity, and that in this case Elon was behaving in a manner which within the abhorrent norms of the overall platform. [Though, I'm sure Mr. Gates will be fine, and that ultimately the comment mostly just makes Mr. Musk look bad...] But having a different opinion on that doesn't make someone a killjoy. Someone isn't humorless because they think that mocking someone's appearance like that-- particularly outside of special context like a comedy club-- is gross.
- CydeWeys 5y ago
  None of this is relevant to whether changing the nature of Twitter in this manner will make it worth more than $43B. (And I'm just gonna ignore your ad hominems.) Humor is very hard to monetize.

solenoidalslide 5y ago

Shit posts are incredibly advertiser friendly. Most popular memes that define our current internet culture started out as juvenile shit posts.

CydeWeys 5y ago
> Shit posts are incredibly advertiser friendly. Show me advertisers who are happy to monetize on this exact content then.
- glenstein 5y ago
  The current wave of it started with Old Spice TV commercials and Dennys Tumblr. From there it has spread to numerous other brands like Moon Pies, Sunny Delight, etc. Many snack and food brands were highly visible early adopters of this iteration of internet culture as a way to rep their brands.
  - CydeWeys 5y ago
    There's a huge difference between mean-spirited user-generated shitposts and quirky advertising campaign. You're talking about the latter. Crucially, an advertising campaign is carefully crafted and gets approval, whereas millions of shitposts you might potentially advertise online are not and do not, and many of them pose a brand risk to be associated with. So I ask again, show me examples of advertisers that enthusiastically advertise on shitposts.
    - glenstein 5y ago
      Sure, and no true scotsman puts sugar on his porridge. Your own chosen example was Elon Musk recent twitter history. Debating the difference between your chosen example and Dennys to identify an obvious principle that distinguishes them is asking people to play calvinball with you.
- solenoidalslide 5y ago
  You mean advertisers who would be willing to target consumers who dislike how the incredibly rich have disproportionately large control of the economy? You also have advertisers willing to target the outrage crowd, so they would also stand to gain from the post. Not all advertisers care about the things that advertisers from companies like Disney or the NFL care about.

EricE 5y ago

What an utter joy you must be to live with. The utter lack of any sense of humor is something I seriously hope Elon can continue to reverse. People seriously need to get over themselves and stop seeking out infinite ways to be offended. Live and let live! Life is too short to have sticks so firmly implanted so deeply.

nullc 5y ago
That's an unnecessarily personal reply. I've met the person you're responding to and think he's a lot of fun. ... and I say this as someone who agrees with the argument that twitter is deeply toxic, that it systematically rewards, promotes, and monetizes toxicity, and that in this case Elon was behaving in a manner which within the abhorrent norms of the overall platform. [Though, I'm sure Mr. Gates will be fine, and that ultimately the comment mostly just makes Mr. Musk look bad...] But having a different opinion on that doesn't make someone a killjoy. Someone isn't humorless because they think that mocking someone's appearance like that-- particularly outside of special context like a comedy club-- is gross.
CydeWeys 5y ago
None of this is relevant to whether changing the nature of Twitter in this manner will make it worth more than $43B. (And I'm just gonna ignore your ad hominems.) Humor is very hard to monetize.