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What a negative comment, and i find it hard to believe accurate. Yes there is such phenomena but ending with a "perhaps let's just pack up and deliver the probl

What a negative comment, and i find it hard to believe accurate. Yes there is such phenomena but ending with a "perhaps let's just pack up and deliver the problem somewhere else" is outrageous and further confirmation that the poster is out of ideas so let's apply "AI". Scientific methods and the institutions in charge of applying resources towards it are not perfect but our life has seen incredible improvements in the last few years. Hell, we just came out of a pandemic with a brand new type of vaccine! I just recently read about the rotavirus vaccine changing gastroentritis at nation's levels. A vaccine that appeared in 2006, so quite after I was born and I am a 90s guy. How can one say science is selfies? I refuse to be put down by such a world view.

Jensson 5y ago
> Scientific methods and the institutions in charge of applying resources towards it are not perfect but our life has seen incredible improvements in the last few years Private research is doing just fine, it is public research we are talking about here. The examples you mentioned were developed by private companies.
- gmac 5y ago
  ... building on decades of prior research, much of it public (e.g. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w)
derbOac 5y ago
You might unintentionally be proving the point of the person you're responding to: that mRNA vaccine you mention has been filled with examples of the problems with modern academic science. One of the main developers of mRNA vaccines was demoted at Penn because she tried and failed to get grant funding for how to develop them, and was told to stop working on it because "it wouldn't work" and wasn't bringing in money to the university. There were other stories by others involved in developing SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines that their papers on the topic were repeatedly rejected from journals before the pandemic. It would be a mistake to attribute mRNA vaccines to any one person or even small group of persons but it's not clear to me that it's a good example of how the standard academic system is working.

Jensson 5y ago

> Scientific methods and the institutions in charge of applying resources towards it are not perfect but our life has seen incredible improvements in the last few years Private research is doing just fine, it is public research we are talking about here. The examples you mentioned were developed by private companies.

gmac 5y ago
... building on decades of prior research, much of it public (e.g. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w)

derbOac 5y ago

You might unintentionally be proving the point of the person you're responding to: that mRNA vaccine you mention has been filled with examples of the problems with modern academic science. One of the main developers of mRNA vaccines was demoted at Penn because she tried and failed to get grant funding for how to develop them, and was told to stop working on it because "it wouldn't work" and wasn't bringing in money to the university. There were other stories by others involved in developing SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines that their papers on the topic were repeatedly rejected from journals before the pandemic. It would be a mistake to attribute mRNA vaccines to any one person or even small group of persons but it's not clear to me that it's a good example of how the standard academic system is working.