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I was also there. I belonged to the group of people who begged the reddit admins to do something about all the hate posts, because I didn't want to read about D

I was also there. I belonged to the group of people who begged the reddit admins to do something about all the hate posts, because I didn't want to read about Donald Trump and how bad fat people and Ellen Pao are all day. I wanted to get back to the tech discussion. We could fix /r/theDonald hogging all space on /r/all by not using /r/all, but the people advocating the murder of obese people, trans people and jews were a constant nuisance and invaded every subreddit, and that certainly didn't help to attract or retain a techy audience for the subs I frequented. My perspective isn't more valid than yours, but I think you might underestimate how many people literally fled reddit due to the deluge of hate and highly antagonistic posts about US politics.

rootusrootus 4y ago
> My perspective isn't more valid than yours, but I think you might underestimate how many people literally fled reddit due to the deluge of hate and highly antagonistic posts about US politics. Indeed, if Elon Musk takes Twitter private and uses his power to force 'free speech' on the rest of us, and I start seeing references to kikes and fags and such in every casual tech discussion, I'll just close my Twitter account and walk away. I want a moderated forum. I like what dang does for HN. I don't want a free speech heaven, because it reliably turns into hell. I used to run my own BBS back in the 80s, and even then it was obvious. If you don't put in guardrails, the assholes take over and suck all the oxygen out of the room.
- NtGuy25 4y ago
  There's a big difference between moderation on HN and sites like Reddit. Reddit completely shadowbans, filters, or bans anyone who doesn't post with the hivemind. This makes it so you can't have a fair contrarian view and it completely pushes out people and makes an echo chamber. I would say that Reddit takes it to the level of the Soviet Union in wrongthink. While HN is moderated, you can have pretty much any fair view as long as it contributes to the discussion. Which is nice and the ideal middle ground. Although I will say, I never have any issues with Twitter and the moderation is just fine besides some high profile cases I disagree with. I would say it's even to lax.
jscipione 4y ago
This further confirms my suspicion that the reason conservatives are censored on social media is because if they were given equal opportunity then they would DOMINATE every conversation and every election.

rootusrootus 4y ago

> My perspective isn't more valid than yours, but I think you might underestimate how many people literally fled reddit due to the deluge of hate and highly antagonistic posts about US politics. Indeed, if Elon Musk takes Twitter private and uses his power to force 'free speech' on the rest of us, and I start seeing references to kikes and fags and such in every casual tech discussion, I'll just close my Twitter account and walk away. I want a moderated forum. I like what dang does for HN. I don't want a free speech heaven, because it reliably turns into hell. I used to run my own BBS back in the 80s, and even then it was obvious. If you don't put in guardrails, the assholes take over and suck all the oxygen out of the room.

NtGuy25 4y ago
There's a big difference between moderation on HN and sites like Reddit. Reddit completely shadowbans, filters, or bans anyone who doesn't post with the hivemind. This makes it so you can't have a fair contrarian view and it completely pushes out people and makes an echo chamber. I would say that Reddit takes it to the level of the Soviet Union in wrongthink. While HN is moderated, you can have pretty much any fair view as long as it contributes to the discussion. Which is nice and the ideal middle ground. Although I will say, I never have any issues with Twitter and the moderation is just fine besides some high profile cases I disagree with. I would say it's even to lax.

jscipione 4y ago

This further confirms my suspicion that the reason conservatives are censored on social media is because if they were given equal opportunity then they would DOMINATE every conversation and every election.