8 ms·

He said Netflix lost subscribers because it was producing woke content. It doesn’t make any sense on its face other than as a way to con certain ideologies. I

by dd36 4y ago

He said Netflix lost subscribers because it was producing woke content. It doesn’t make any sense on its face other than as a way to con certain ideologies. I have Netflix and I consume Black Mirror, Stranger Things, Squid Game, Bojack, etc. Calling Netflix woke is pure virtue signaling. Maybe he’s planning to run for President?

deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
jrochkind1 4y ago
OK, how are the children he had with Grimes related?
- dd36 4y ago
  He was with Grimes for years. If woke was a turn off for him, would he have been with Grimes for years let alone had children with her? I think it’s either that he’s upset with Grimes for leaving him and is being anti-woke in response OR he’s up to something else that’s yet to be revealed. I don’t think this virtue signaling matters to getting state legislatures to allow direct Tesla sales. Maybe it does in his mind?
  - robonerd 4y ago
    Not everybody expects their partner to share their political beliefs. There is a reason we let married men and women vote independently for themselves.
    - dd36 4y ago
      Absolutely. What's more likely? Elon is putting on a show to accomplish some goal or Elon hates what Grimes stands for?
      - robonerd 4y ago
        Only he knows what he really believes. My point is merely that somebody can disagree with their spouse's politics without hating them for it.
        dd36 4y ago
        I agree with your point. I also don’t think Elon is as anti-woke as he appears to many to be.
      - saurik 4y ago
        (Maybe-also? <- Just adding stuff, but am unsure if we agree or not as we are both just adding stuff I think ;P.) FWIW, 1) it was never clear that Grimes actually truly "stands for" anything, and 2) she did leave him, so clearly something didn't work out ;P. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2021/10/03/following-her-split-with-billionaire-elon-musk-grimes-poses-with-the-communist-manifesto/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2021/10/03/follow...
        dd36 4y ago
        Yeah, so it could be a response to her leaving him. She may have left him because of it. I imagine Elon isn't the easiest of romantic/parenting partners given his work ethic.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - jrochkind1 4y ago
    How do i know what's a "turn off" for anyone, or what motivates relationships. Plenty of mysterious and contradictory and/or dysfunctional relationships in the world. Maybe that's part of why they broke up? Making theories about the private lives of celebrities and what they demonstrate about what they really are like or are motivated by... seems pretty much like fanfic to me. Fun game if you're into it, but I wouldn't base my worldview on it.
    - dd36 4y ago
      I base my entire world view on it.
rootusrootus 4y ago
> Maybe he’s planning to run for President? That would be incredibly ambitious; getting 40 states to agree to that seems exceedingly unlikely.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  People thought the same about the 45th, and yet the world was forced to endure these full four disastrous years. I don't like to take chances in politics these days...
  - robonerd 4y ago
    I don't recall '45' getting any amendments to the constitution through.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    Musk can't be president without a constitutional amendment.
    - mschuster91 4y ago
      Yeah, and so what? We thought Trump becoming President was "exceedingly unlikely", too - and then it happened anyway, thanks to a bunch of Russian propaganda and a literal ton of dark money. Who says that the richest man on the planet can't set up a lobbying/propaganda operation to secure him a shot at Presidency too? Especially a man who has a lot of very vocal, very dedicated fans all over the US? Have them e-mail and call bomb enough representatives and he'll get his will.
      - UncleMeat 4y ago
        The bar for trump to become president is a lot lower than the bar for an amendment.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
Zenbit_UX 4y ago
> It doesn’t make any sense on its face other than as a way to con certain ideologies. Meh, Netflix does produce a lot of low-effort woke content: Sense8 and the one where they stopped a school shooting through interpretive dance comes to mind. I'd love to watch more high budget series where diversity is achieved without it being shoved in your face (all female Ghostbusters / all female oceans). They come across as pandering to their audiences instead of progressing societal views elegantly - hence why people say Netflix produces woke content and loses subscribers. The goal should be subtlety and not wokeness. So far the only show (of Netflix) I've seen that hit these tones was Altered Carbon and it was aided a lot by the fact that it's set in a futuristic society where bodies are viewed as disposable sleeves.

by dd36 4y ago

deleted 4y ago

[deleted]

jrochkind1 4y ago

OK, how are the children he had with Grimes related?

dd36 4y ago
He was with Grimes for years. If woke was a turn off for him, would he have been with Grimes for years let alone had children with her? I think it’s either that he’s upset with Grimes for leaving him and is being anti-woke in response OR he’s up to something else that’s yet to be revealed. I don’t think this virtue signaling matters to getting state legislatures to allow direct Tesla sales. Maybe it does in his mind?
- robonerd 4y ago
  Not everybody expects their partner to share their political beliefs. There is a reason we let married men and women vote independently for themselves.
  - dd36 4y ago
    Absolutely. What's more likely? Elon is putting on a show to accomplish some goal or Elon hates what Grimes stands for?
    - robonerd 4y ago
      Only he knows what he really believes. My point is merely that somebody can disagree with their spouse's politics without hating them for it.
      - dd36 4y ago
        I agree with your point. I also don’t think Elon is as anti-woke as he appears to many to be.
    - saurik 4y ago
      (Maybe-also? <- Just adding stuff, but am unsure if we agree or not as we are both just adding stuff I think ;P.) FWIW, 1) it was never clear that Grimes actually truly "stands for" anything, and 2) she did leave him, so clearly something didn't work out ;P. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2021/10/03/following-her-split-with-billionaire-elon-musk-grimes-poses-with-the-communist-manifesto/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2021/10/03/follow...
      - dd36 4y ago
        Yeah, so it could be a response to her leaving him. She may have left him because of it. I imagine Elon isn't the easiest of romantic/parenting partners given his work ethic.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  How do i know what's a "turn off" for anyone, or what motivates relationships. Plenty of mysterious and contradictory and/or dysfunctional relationships in the world. Maybe that's part of why they broke up? Making theories about the private lives of celebrities and what they demonstrate about what they really are like or are motivated by... seems pretty much like fanfic to me. Fun game if you're into it, but I wouldn't base my worldview on it.
  - dd36 4y ago
    I base my entire world view on it.

rootusrootus 4y ago

> Maybe he’s planning to run for President? That would be incredibly ambitious; getting 40 states to agree to that seems exceedingly unlikely.

mschuster91 4y ago
People thought the same about the 45th, and yet the world was forced to endure these full four disastrous years. I don't like to take chances in politics these days...
- robonerd 4y ago
  I don't recall '45' getting any amendments to the constitution through.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  Musk can't be president without a constitutional amendment.
  - mschuster91 4y ago
    Yeah, and so what? We thought Trump becoming President was "exceedingly unlikely", too - and then it happened anyway, thanks to a bunch of Russian propaganda and a literal ton of dark money. Who says that the richest man on the planet can't set up a lobbying/propaganda operation to secure him a shot at Presidency too? Especially a man who has a lot of very vocal, very dedicated fans all over the US? Have them e-mail and call bomb enough representatives and he'll get his will.
    - UncleMeat 4y ago
      The bar for trump to become president is a lot lower than the bar for an amendment.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]

Zenbit_UX 4y ago

> It doesn’t make any sense on its face other than as a way to con certain ideologies. Meh, Netflix does produce a lot of low-effort woke content: Sense8 and the one where they stopped a school shooting through interpretive dance comes to mind. I'd love to watch more high budget series where diversity is achieved without it being shoved in your face (all female Ghostbusters / all female oceans). They come across as pandering to their audiences instead of progressing societal views elegantly - hence why people say Netflix produces woke content and loses subscribers. The goal should be subtlety and not wokeness. So far the only show (of Netflix) I've seen that hit these tones was Altered Carbon and it was aided a lot by the fact that it's set in a futuristic society where bodies are viewed as disposable sleeves.