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Because the people with power, the leaders, big tech, advertisers, people with influence, and the media do not like musk. They’ll just start some new trendy sit

Because the people with power, the leaders, big tech, advertisers, people with influence, and the media do not like musk. They’ll just start some new trendy site and go there.

loceng 4y ago
Are you sure about that? I think you may be conflating people with artificial power and those with genuine power. You realize people have tried that before as well, e.g. Parler, Gab, Truth Social, etc? You're likely right to some degree though, in so much as that there will be a group or a few who will for reasons (whether truthful or not) don't want to associate with a site owned by Musk and will try to start and create a successful site; it's not easy though - and why Musk is willing to buy a head start for ~$42 billion.
- 1270018080 4y ago
  Parler, Gab, and Truth Social are all right wing extremist sites because they don't moderate and they want to attract that demographic. I assume someone creating an alternative to Twitter because Musk buys it would intentionally not follow that path. Still, an alternative wouldn't succeed.
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    all 3 of those sites do moderate.
    - Qub3d 4y ago
      That's true, but its a deeper problem with that. The moderation is a sort of "in protest" form, with lots of deliberate "blind eyes" and slow action so they don't get deplatformed by the app stores etc. Beyond the moderation, these sites have the problem that they are inherently set up as a sort of opposition haven -- "we're twitter for people banned from twitter!" This results in a phenomenon Hank Green calls the "worst people problem"[0]. I'm not a huge fan of the judgemental term, but the core idea is similar to pointing out the inherent contradiction of, say, an anarchists' society. You end up with a userbase that is defined by its desire to flaunt rules and reject any normative standards. [0]:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348101443404787718.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348101443404787718.html (somewhat related and worth a watch: Folding Ideas' 2017 video essay about YT alternatives. Alt platforms have had inherent problems even before the more recent political bent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI)

Because the people with power, the leaders, big tech, advertisers, people with influence, and the media do not like musk. They’ll just start some new trendy site and go there.

loceng 4y ago

Are you sure about that? I think you may be conflating people with artificial power and those with genuine power. You realize people have tried that before as well, e.g. Parler, Gab, Truth Social, etc? You're likely right to some degree though, in so much as that there will be a group or a few who will for reasons (whether truthful or not) don't want to associate with a site owned by Musk and will try to start and create a successful site; it's not easy though - and why Musk is willing to buy a head start for ~$42 billion.

1270018080 4y ago
Parler, Gab, and Truth Social are all right wing extremist sites because they don't moderate and they want to attract that demographic. I assume someone creating an alternative to Twitter because Musk buys it would intentionally not follow that path. Still, an alternative wouldn't succeed.
- nickthegreek 4y ago
  all 3 of those sites do moderate.
  - Qub3d 4y ago
    That's true, but its a deeper problem with that. The moderation is a sort of "in protest" form, with lots of deliberate "blind eyes" and slow action so they don't get deplatformed by the app stores etc. Beyond the moderation, these sites have the problem that they are inherently set up as a sort of opposition haven -- "we're twitter for people banned from twitter!" This results in a phenomenon Hank Green calls the "worst people problem"[0]. I'm not a huge fan of the judgemental term, but the core idea is similar to pointing out the inherent contradiction of, say, an anarchists' society. You end up with a userbase that is defined by its desire to flaunt rules and reject any normative standards. [0]:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348101443404787718.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348101443404787718.html (somewhat related and worth a watch: Folding Ideas' 2017 video essay about YT alternatives. Alt platforms have had inherent problems even before the more recent political bent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI)