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Not sure what is so hard about this. The mission of Tesla is not free speech, but to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. Tesla seems to be doing j

Not sure what is so hard about this. The mission of Tesla is not free speech, but to accelerate the transition to sustainable energy. Tesla seems to be doing just fine without a PR department, so it seems he was right to shut it down. The mission of SpaceX is to make life multi-planetary. So of course there is no right to free speech for the employees. But the mission of twitter should be free speech within the bounds of the law, at least according to Elon. Currently it seems to be to move the Overton window so much to the left that you can be banned for giving the definition of what a woman is that was commonly accepted by everybody in 2010.

V__ 4y ago
> But the mission of twitter should be free speech within the bounds of the law, at least according to Elon. The problem is, his past actions don't inspire any confidence in that being the truth. > Currently it seems to be to move the Overton window so much to the left that you can be banned for giving the definition of what a woman is that was commonly accepted by everybody in 2010. That's the right-wing view and there are countless examples of the left-wing getting banned, and they are angry as well. I don't thing it's cut and dry.
- tomschlick 4y ago
  > there are countless examples of the left-wing getting banned Can you name some that weren't due to the poster threatening someone, doxing or otherwise something illegal? I honestly can't think of any off the top of my head where a left wing post/user was banned for something legal but I can think of tons from the other side.
  - V__ 4y ago
    I tried to find a few more or less reputable sources for you: * https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ban-us-mid-term-elections https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ba... * https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsinaeordogh/2018/07/31/why-republicans-werent-the-only-ones-shadow-banned-on-twitter/?sh=4844278434ba https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsinaeordogh/2018/07/31/why-... * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-a... Don't get me wrong: I'm sure more right-wing/conservatives users are getting blocked than their counterparts, but only because they are more extreme (right now) on those platforms.
    - tomschlick 4y ago
      It seems that of those, the only one that had anything to do with suspensions / bans was the Occupy accounts and those (according to the article) seem to have been tripping the "might be a bot" thresholds because of how they don't post for a long time and then all of a sudden all blast the same content from the same protests. While they shouldn't be banned (and I'm assuming that was fixed after that article came out if in fact they were not bots), I haven't seen any examples of specific left wing accounts getting banned for posting content as many on the right have (examples: Hunter Biden stories and the NYP, anyone posting Wuhan Lab leak theory in 2020-2021, The Babylon Bee for the Rachel Levine satire posts, etc).

V__ 4y ago

> But the mission of twitter should be free speech within the bounds of the law, at least according to Elon. The problem is, his past actions don't inspire any confidence in that being the truth. > Currently it seems to be to move the Overton window so much to the left that you can be banned for giving the definition of what a woman is that was commonly accepted by everybody in 2010. That's the right-wing view and there are countless examples of the left-wing getting banned, and they are angry as well. I don't thing it's cut and dry.

tomschlick 4y ago
> there are countless examples of the left-wing getting banned Can you name some that weren't due to the poster threatening someone, doxing or otherwise something illegal? I honestly can't think of any off the top of my head where a left wing post/user was banned for something legal but I can think of tons from the other side.
- V__ 4y ago
  I tried to find a few more or less reputable sources for you: * https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ban-us-mid-term-elections https://www.wired.co.uk/article/twitter-political-account-ba... * https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsinaeordogh/2018/07/31/why-republicans-werent-the-only-ones-shadow-banned-on-twitter/?sh=4844278434ba https://www.forbes.com/sites/fruzsinaeordogh/2018/07/31/why-... * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-a... Don't get me wrong: I'm sure more right-wing/conservatives users are getting blocked than their counterparts, but only because they are more extreme (right now) on those platforms.
  - tomschlick 4y ago
    It seems that of those, the only one that had anything to do with suspensions / bans was the Occupy accounts and those (according to the article) seem to have been tripping the "might be a bot" thresholds because of how they don't post for a long time and then all of a sudden all blast the same content from the same protests. While they shouldn't be banned (and I'm assuming that was fixed after that article came out if in fact they were not bots), I haven't seen any examples of specific left wing accounts getting banned for posting content as many on the right have (examples: Hunter Biden stories and the NYP, anyone posting Wuhan Lab leak theory in 2020-2021, The Babylon Bee for the Rachel Levine satire posts, etc).