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Why is it so hard for businesses or people to understand why people aren't that interested in returning to open-offices or other "modern" ways of warehousing wo
by jleyank 5y ago
Why is it so hard for businesses or people to understand why people aren't that interested in returning to open-offices or other "modern" ways of warehousing workers? If they all had 1-2 person offices w/door, where knowledge workers could have the quiet and uninterrupted time to work, then you'd probably get some return.
If, however, you're asking people to return to mayhem, where they have to use blinders and noise-reducing headphones to think, you're crazy.
- philistine 5y agoI'm in an office with a door. My return to work was bittersweet, but manageable.
- dont__panic 5y agoMost people don't even have that at home! I suspect if everyone had an office at work for "deep work," the commute would be easier to swallow. I, for one, could save some money on rent by moving to a place with one fewer bedroom.
- jleyank 5y agoI think that's people's point - if you give me a better work environment than I have at home, you have an argument for me commuting. However, if it's worse or no batter...
- exabrial 5y ago> If they all had 1-2 person offices w/door, where knowledge workers could have the quiet and uninterrupted time to work, then you'd probably get some return. We've know this "secret" for long awhile, because literally everyone talks about it. We do some schedule office WFH days as well to balance things out.
- bberenberg 5y agoBecause managers are seeing this regularly https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31154119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31154119
- fortyseven 5y agoBecause nobody's had to work multiple jobs before in meat-space? It's just about power and control.
- bberenberg 5y agoMost people aren't actively violating a contract in meat space. This isn't about people doing 2 real jobs. This is about people doing 0.25x at 2+ jobs. They are lying and screwing over team members who have to pick up the slack and deal with their BS. They're not fighting the man, they're the person who shows up on the last day of class and slaps their name on the group project. These aren't a new class of individual arising from the pandemic or remote work, it's a situation which is emboldening pre-existing bad behavior. Firing is a pain in most orgs. Telling other employers that this employee behaved like this is illegal, so they keep doing this in more places. It's plain old theft and disrespect for team members.
- fartcannon 5y agoOK so fire that one person and let everyone else WFH? Your work force is not a single antagonistic entity that must be punished when 'it' misbehaves.
- DGCA 5y agoI’d rather subsidize a handful of slackers than return to the office.
- UncleMeat 5y agoI am honestly worried about this. Even if this sort of thing is rare, it is absolutely the sort of thing that can get a bee in the bonnet of some CEO who decides suddenly that their remote workers are all cheating them and calls them back.