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Cracked Siri has been successfully ported to an iPhone 4

56 points by diegogomes 15y ago

arn 15y ago
except the voice recognition part doesn't work. other than that! :) edit: looks like it just won't communicate with apple's server? (Which I think is the main functionality) it's hard to tell since video doesn't show any voice commands working.
- fudged 15y ago
  The main functionality doesn't work. Useless.
  - chugger 15y ago
    yeah this is useless. looks like voice recognition works, the AI does not.
  - aninteger 15y ago
    C'mon.. you have to start somewhere. Do you honestly think that when you reverse engineer a product you end up with a 100% compatible clone on the first release/iteration. Give it some time. There's no reason to be so negative.
    - arn 15y ago
      It's just that the title implies that it's been ported in a working fashion.
      - dorian-graph 15y ago
        Some people here are acting as if they were just told that Santa Clause isn't real.
    - mikhael 15y ago
      it seems (highly) unlikely to me that it will ever be successfully ported, as apple can surely white-list the service by IMEI or serial number.
      - jonknee 15y ago
        Then hack it to send a different IMEI or serial number. I wouldn't make a bet against hackers getting compatible software to run.
- Xuzz 15y ago
  The details here is that Siri seems to use some sort of authentication token when contacting the server that the iPhone 4 isn't sending, so it's rejected. We'll have to see if it's possible to work around that or share the token with a real 4S first.
rudiger 15y ago
Why isn't Siri on iOS 5 for the iPhone 4?
- henrikschroder 15y ago
  Because they'll sell more hardware that way.
- sjs 15y ago
  http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3115536 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3115536
- MediaBehavior 15y ago
  FWIW: I seem to recall something said at the keynote (or many a discussion afterward) that the greater power of the 4s' A5 was "needed". [ correct me if I just dreamt that ] Not that that should stop anybody from processing it with an A4-powered iPhone.
kgutteridge 15y ago
you have to wonder if the beta tag has been applied purely because of scaling the servers, artificially holding back to the 4S rather than iphone 4 and ipad 2 probably makes capacity planning a lot easier!
- mikeryan 15y ago
  I can tell you this, last night while playing with Siri we had several periods where it "couldn't connect to the network" - these were not networking issues, everything else worked fine.
  - llambda 15y ago
    By "not networking issues" you must mean not issues with your network: because surely they were networking issues related to Apple's AI processing network... i.e. the cloud
chugger 15y ago
I just tried this. "I want you to call me Gorgeous" and from that point on Siri calls me Gorgeous! haha "Ok Gorgeous what do you want to do!" :D
- palish 15y ago
  Can you make it call you Rumplestiltskin? What's the longest name?
  - X-Istence 15y ago
    Yes, it will just update your "me" contact with that nickname and from then on will call you that =).
- chugger 15y ago
  I can even use nick names I assigned to people in my contact list. "Send a text to honeybunch" (my wife) "Send a text to cruella Deville" (my boss) Hah!
andreipop 15y ago
What would it take to port to a 3GS?
- devindra 15y ago
  A miracle? :P Best you can hope for is finding a copy of the old Siri app
  - agildehaus 15y ago
    How about a 1st generation iPod Touch? :P
  - Zev 15y ago
    The old Siri app doesn't work anymore, either.
CGamesPlay 15y ago
The 4S is was entirely a software update from a features perspective. The article definitely lends more credence to this argument, because Apple said that the Siri was a 4S only feature. The biggest announcement that Apple made, in my mind, is the fact that the iPhone 3 is now free with contract.
- teilo 15y ago
  Yep. Nothing but software, except for dual-core, faster CPU, much faster GPU, 8MP camera, 1080P video, and combined CDMA-GSM radios that can roam internationally no matter your carrier. But other than that, what have the Romans ever done for us? edit: Not double the RAM.
  - dhbanes 15y ago
    You're right that it's a major update, but unfortunately the RAM didn't double.
    - teilo 15y ago
      Whoops. You are correct. I thought the 4 had 256MB.
- cubicle67 15y ago
  It's odd you think the 3GS being free was the biggest announcement, because it's been free here for ages. Heck, I can get a 4S free on the right contract. Here - free on a $59 cap http://shop.vodafone.com.au/mobile-details/buy-apple-iphone-4s-16gb-black?pid=v:phs::iphone-4s:bod:iphone-4s-16gb-btn-cta http://shop.vodafone.com.au/mobile-details/buy-apple-iphone-... or also free on an $85 infinite plan (infinite calls/text + 3Gb data) similar with the other carriers

56 points by diegogomes 15y ago

arn 15y ago

except the voice recognition part doesn't work. other than that! :) edit: looks like it just won't communicate with apple's server? (Which I think is the main functionality) it's hard to tell since video doesn't show any voice commands working.

fudged 15y ago
The main functionality doesn't work. Useless.
- chugger 15y ago
  yeah this is useless. looks like voice recognition works, the AI does not.
- aninteger 15y ago
  C'mon.. you have to start somewhere. Do you honestly think that when you reverse engineer a product you end up with a 100% compatible clone on the first release/iteration. Give it some time. There's no reason to be so negative.
  - arn 15y ago
    It's just that the title implies that it's been ported in a working fashion.
    - dorian-graph 15y ago
      Some people here are acting as if they were just told that Santa Clause isn't real.
  - mikhael 15y ago
    it seems (highly) unlikely to me that it will ever be successfully ported, as apple can surely white-list the service by IMEI or serial number.
    - jonknee 15y ago
      Then hack it to send a different IMEI or serial number. I wouldn't make a bet against hackers getting compatible software to run.
Xuzz 15y ago
The details here is that Siri seems to use some sort of authentication token when contacting the server that the iPhone 4 isn't sending, so it's rejected. We'll have to see if it's possible to work around that or share the token with a real 4S first.

rudiger 15y ago

Why isn't Siri on iOS 5 for the iPhone 4?

henrikschroder 15y ago
Because they'll sell more hardware that way.
sjs 15y ago
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3115536 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3115536
MediaBehavior 15y ago
FWIW: I seem to recall something said at the keynote (or many a discussion afterward) that the greater power of the 4s' A5 was "needed". [ correct me if I just dreamt that ] Not that that should stop anybody from processing it with an A4-powered iPhone.

kgutteridge 15y ago

you have to wonder if the beta tag has been applied purely because of scaling the servers, artificially holding back to the 4S rather than iphone 4 and ipad 2 probably makes capacity planning a lot easier!

mikeryan 15y ago
I can tell you this, last night while playing with Siri we had several periods where it "couldn't connect to the network" - these were not networking issues, everything else worked fine.
- llambda 15y ago
  By "not networking issues" you must mean not issues with your network: because surely they were networking issues related to Apple's AI processing network... i.e. the cloud

chugger 15y ago

I just tried this. "I want you to call me Gorgeous" and from that point on Siri calls me Gorgeous! haha "Ok Gorgeous what do you want to do!" :D

palish 15y ago
Can you make it call you Rumplestiltskin? What's the longest name?
- X-Istence 15y ago
  Yes, it will just update your "me" contact with that nickname and from then on will call you that =).
chugger 15y ago
I can even use nick names I assigned to people in my contact list. "Send a text to honeybunch" (my wife) "Send a text to cruella Deville" (my boss) Hah!

andreipop 15y ago

What would it take to port to a 3GS?

devindra 15y ago
A miracle? :P Best you can hope for is finding a copy of the old Siri app
- agildehaus 15y ago
  How about a 1st generation iPod Touch? :P
- Zev 15y ago
  The old Siri app doesn't work anymore, either.

CGamesPlay 15y ago

The 4S is was entirely a software update from a features perspective. The article definitely lends more credence to this argument, because Apple said that the Siri was a 4S only feature. The biggest announcement that Apple made, in my mind, is the fact that the iPhone 3 is now free with contract.

teilo 15y ago
Yep. Nothing but software, except for dual-core, faster CPU, much faster GPU, 8MP camera, 1080P video, and combined CDMA-GSM radios that can roam internationally no matter your carrier. But other than that, what have the Romans ever done for us? edit: Not double the RAM.
- dhbanes 15y ago
  You're right that it's a major update, but unfortunately the RAM didn't double.
  - teilo 15y ago
    Whoops. You are correct. I thought the 4 had 256MB.
cubicle67 15y ago
It's odd you think the 3GS being free was the biggest announcement, because it's been free here for ages. Heck, I can get a 4S free on the right contract. Here - free on a $59 cap http://shop.vodafone.com.au/mobile-details/buy-apple-iphone-4s-16gb-black?pid=v:phs::iphone-4s:bod:iphone-4s-16gb-btn-cta http://shop.vodafone.com.au/mobile-details/buy-apple-iphone-... or also free on an $85 infinite plan (infinite calls/text + 3Gb data) similar with the other carriers