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It's not about being decent, it's about being straight up better. It does get a bit sluggish, but that's more on Java being memory hungry.

by Ygg2 5y ago

croes 5y ago
But parent was about decent >> To get a decent IDE support, you either used a language supported by JetBrains (IntelliJ or ReSharper) or. >VS, Eclipse, Netbeans, Delphi, C++ Builder, KDevelop, QtCreator,...
erikbye 5y ago
What exactly is better in Rider?
- Ygg2 5y ago
  Autocomplete, refactoring, UI, support for newest features, etc. Anecdata time. I was working on codegen in C#. So I wrote the codegen in netstandard2.1. That is until a team member that used Visual Studio complained it didn't work for him. So I had to rewrite the thing in netstandard2.0 (shudder) and it worked. I haven't seen anyone that wanted to go back to VS after using Rider. I did use it for a while, but after Rider it just seemed like an inferior version.
  - erikbye 5y ago
    Can you be more specific? How is autocomplete better in Rider? Faster coming up with suggestions? More helpful suggestions? IntelliSense and IntelliCode in latest VS versions is pretty decent... Performance in VS has improved since going 64-bit. What refactorings are unique to Rider? UI? What features? Your statements smells of preference and sound vague.
    - Ygg2 5y ago
      > smells of preference Because it is. My preference, never claimed it wasn't one. But I don't know people that would recommend anything else. VS Code is faster but poorer refactors/debug experience. It was just a subjective concensus. I haven't timed the IDEs nor do I intend to in near future. I think overall the helpfulness was better, and support for bleeding edge features like CodeGen, but I haven't used VS in like year or two.
    - easton 5y ago
      > What refactorings are unique to Rider? I know Rider/ReSharper can fix variable names that are mentioned in comments, which VS can't do (and it gets on my nerves when I don't have ReSharper).
      - tester756 5y ago
        Please. https://i.imgur.com/mD6Z4zO.png https://i.imgur.com/mD6Z4zO.png Idk if it comes with VS out of the box or comes from free extension called 'Roslynator', but eitherway it is there.
        erikbye 5y ago
        It's built-in, no need for extensions.
      - erikbye 5y ago
        Of course it can. It's built-in (see image below) VS can rename variables contained in strings and comments. Also, it's been a long time now since ReSharper was "needed" to work in VS. ReSharper also bogged down VS a lot.
    - Ygg2 5y ago
      Also, did you disregard my point about support for code gen. Netstandard 2.1 CodeGen in C# didn't work properly around 1 year ago in VS, while Rider had no problems with them.

It's not about being decent, it's about being straight up better. It does get a bit sluggish, but that's more on Java being memory hungry.

by Ygg2 5y ago

It's not about being decent, it's about being straight up better. It does get a bit sluggish, but that's more on Java being memory hungry.

croes 5y ago

But parent was about decent >> To get a decent IDE support, you either used a language supported by JetBrains (IntelliJ or ReSharper) or. >VS, Eclipse, Netbeans, Delphi, C++ Builder, KDevelop, QtCreator,...

erikbye 5y ago

What exactly is better in Rider?

Ygg2 5y ago
Autocomplete, refactoring, UI, support for newest features, etc. Anecdata time. I was working on codegen in C#. So I wrote the codegen in netstandard2.1. That is until a team member that used Visual Studio complained it didn't work for him. So I had to rewrite the thing in netstandard2.0 (shudder) and it worked. I haven't seen anyone that wanted to go back to VS after using Rider. I did use it for a while, but after Rider it just seemed like an inferior version.
- erikbye 5y ago
  Can you be more specific? How is autocomplete better in Rider? Faster coming up with suggestions? More helpful suggestions? IntelliSense and IntelliCode in latest VS versions is pretty decent... Performance in VS has improved since going 64-bit. What refactorings are unique to Rider? UI? What features? Your statements smells of preference and sound vague.
  - Ygg2 5y ago
    > smells of preference Because it is. My preference, never claimed it wasn't one. But I don't know people that would recommend anything else. VS Code is faster but poorer refactors/debug experience. It was just a subjective concensus. I haven't timed the IDEs nor do I intend to in near future. I think overall the helpfulness was better, and support for bleeding edge features like CodeGen, but I haven't used VS in like year or two.
  - easton 5y ago
    > What refactorings are unique to Rider? I know Rider/ReSharper can fix variable names that are mentioned in comments, which VS can't do (and it gets on my nerves when I don't have ReSharper).
    - tester756 5y ago
      Please. https://i.imgur.com/mD6Z4zO.png https://i.imgur.com/mD6Z4zO.png Idk if it comes with VS out of the box or comes from free extension called 'Roslynator', but eitherway it is there.
      - erikbye 5y ago
        It's built-in, no need for extensions.
    - erikbye 5y ago
      Of course it can. It's built-in (see image below) VS can rename variables contained in strings and comments. Also, it's been a long time now since ReSharper was "needed" to work in VS. ReSharper also bogged down VS a lot.
  - Ygg2 5y ago
    Also, did you disregard my point about support for code gen. Netstandard 2.1 CodeGen in C# didn't work properly around 1 year ago in VS, while Rider had no problems with them.