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I'm not a lawyer, and don't know how the first suggestion would work with contracts that say things like "this represents the entire contract, any additions or
by Buttons840 5y ago
I'm not a lawyer, and don't know how the first suggestion would work with contracts that say things like "this represents the entire contract, any additions or addendums are void".
If the main portion of the contract says "all additions are invalid", and an addition says "this addition overrides the main contract", which one wins?
- ohyoutravel 5y agoThis is called an Integration Clause and is meant to basically remove extra outside agreements from being considered, such as an additional verbal agreement not reflected in the contract language itself. Riders are considered part of the contract bell and exist before signing the entire contract, and are covered by the integration clause as part of the whole contract.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago> Riders are considered part of the contract bell Bell?
- ohyoutravel 5y agoSorry looks like an autocorrect artifact that I now cannot edit. Please strike the word in your mind as you read the sentence. :)
- zippergz 5y agoI don't know why I found this so funny, but it gave me a real laugh this evening.
- thaumasiotes 5y agoThe Language Instinct, in one section, gives some examples of ways in which an English sentence can be ungrammatical that people nevertheless rarely think of when they think about grammatical mistakes. One of my favorites was "This sentence has cabbage six words". It's accurate! It's... almost well-formed! You have to fix "This sentence has six words" somehow, right?
- teddyh 5y agoThis sentence has cabbage and seven words.
- mellavora 5y ago> This is something up with which we will not put! to quote the great Churchill, when someone suggested that one should not end a sentence with a preposition.
- teddyh 5y agoProbably not Churchill: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#Disputed https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#Disputed
- stavros 5y agoToo late, the main corpus of a contract is now officially known as the contract bell.
- ccleve 5y agoThey have to sign the rider as well. Have a signature block on it. Also, in the signature block on the main contract, hand write in something like "agreed, as modified by the rider." That way you've made it clear that you haven't agreed to the main contract alone. You obviously can't do this if everything is electronic. You've got to reject electronic-only contracts outright.
- JumpCrisscross 5y ago> in the signature block on the main contract, hand write in something like "agreed, as modified by the rider This seems excessive. Yes, incorporation is a thing. But if you’re getting a rider with a supremacy clause signed at the same time as the main contract, the company is going to have a hell of a time arguing the latter is moot.
- thaeli 5y agoYeah, but "misplacing" the addendum happens.
- lupire 5y agoHow so? The only relevant copy of the contract, to you, is your copy. The counterparty can do whatever they want to try to manipulate the situation.
- ohyoutravel 5y agoSomewhat piggybacking on what someone else said: you should always have a fully executed copy of the entire contract itself, and in the worst case a copy that the employer had signed (which is often enough). “Misplacing” an addendum can be a serious grounds for sanctions, but ideally you have the addendum with your copy and if possible there is additional evidence that there was an addendum, like perhaps contemporaneous notes or emails talking about the addendum.
- graderjs 5y agoOr go through the DocuSign process but don't sign and download the PDF then add the rider and reupload the modified PDF to your DocuSign for them or just email them.