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This bill has nothing to do with free speech. Disney--a massive two-faced out-of-state for-profit corporation that is silent on China's abuse of Uygur populati

This bill has nothing to do with free speech. Disney--a massive two-faced out-of-state for-profit corporation that is silent on China's abuse of Uygur populations in Xinjiang--had special privileges that only local governments are usually afforded. This bill eliminates the special privileges of this and other similar districts. This has been a long standing issue that many have wanted resolved. Disney has been known to abuse their privileges and avoid a massive amount of taxes they otherwise would have owed. If it weren't for Disney advocating against the bill that bans sex-related teaching for K-3rd grade, there might not have been the political will to make this happen. But Disney exercised their free speech rights. And Floridians, through their elected politicians, eliminated an unfair business advantage of a massive out-of-state for-profit corporation. Democracy at work!

readme 4y ago
it has everything to do with free speech DeSantis himself said that the elimination of the special tax district is retaliation for their opposition to his don't say gay bill, on Fox (specifically during his interview with Tucker Carlson) but the supreme court ruled in the past that retaliation against first amendment protected free speech is unconstitutional https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/547/250.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/547/250.html it's political theatre and will go nowhere, but if it did: Disney pays for a host of services (police, fire, etc) that would instead be passed on to local counties, so it's possible that the company comes out in the black
- joemazerino 4y ago
  It shouldn't be surprising that DeSantis says he's punishing Disney as the company is actively attempting to sabotage his political moves. I'm sure there is more nuance to the action either way.
  - jtgeibel 4y ago
    What exactly is Disney's transgression here? This seems to stem from a single statement about a single bill. Is there more to this? Otherwise this seems completely disproportionate.
    - readme 4y ago
      It's a political stunt for DeSantis
  - JakeAl 4y ago
    >as the company is actively attempting to sabotage his political moves I think you mean undermine his and the state's democratically legislated power and ability to represent the people of the state of Florida. It's that simple. Disney isn't even mentioned in the legislation, nor are the 6 other corporations affected beside Disney. They can try and fight it on legislative grounds, but if they try anything other than that they will open themselves up to outside discovery of all the things they have concealed while they have policed themselves, most notably crimes and their corporate liability related to children, guest safety, and environmental protection and hazards. Disney like one of those blurred out areas on Google maps when it comes to such inquiries because they police themselves. Unless they try to fight it on anything but procedural/administrative grounds. That's when they open themselves up to exposure.
  - readme 4y ago
    It's not surprising, it's just unconstitutional
ss108 4y ago
- samhw 4y ago
  Eh, they aren't wrong. The Disney Corporation should absolutely blatantly not have those privileges. I don't care if some right-winger happens to agree with that, and what motivations they have for doing so - none of that changes what's right and wrong.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    “The last temptation is the greatest treason: to do the right deed for the wrong reason.” - T. S. Eliot, “Murder in the Cathedral”
    - samhw 4y ago
      I'm not totally sure whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me... In this case I'm supporting the right thing for (in my view, obviously) the right reason. Others support it for the wrong reason. Given the inconceivably great multiplicity of views in the world, I'm not sure you'll find a single belief of a single person of which that statement isn't equally true! Edit: Also, gotta say, I prefer the Four Quartets
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  Except for the last paragraph covering current events he sounds like the prevailing HN viewpoint on the issue circa ye olden days of 2021
  - homonculus1 4y ago
    If Sony started giving LSD to kindergarteners, I bet you valley nerds would forget about that whole DVD thing

readme 4y ago

it has everything to do with free speech DeSantis himself said that the elimination of the special tax district is retaliation for their opposition to his don't say gay bill, on Fox (specifically during his interview with Tucker Carlson) but the supreme court ruled in the past that retaliation against first amendment protected free speech is unconstitutional https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/547/250.html https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/547/250.html it's political theatre and will go nowhere, but if it did: Disney pays for a host of services (police, fire, etc) that would instead be passed on to local counties, so it's possible that the company comes out in the black

joemazerino 4y ago
It shouldn't be surprising that DeSantis says he's punishing Disney as the company is actively attempting to sabotage his political moves. I'm sure there is more nuance to the action either way.
- jtgeibel 4y ago
  What exactly is Disney's transgression here? This seems to stem from a single statement about a single bill. Is there more to this? Otherwise this seems completely disproportionate.
  - readme 4y ago
    It's a political stunt for DeSantis
- JakeAl 4y ago
  >as the company is actively attempting to sabotage his political moves I think you mean undermine his and the state's democratically legislated power and ability to represent the people of the state of Florida. It's that simple. Disney isn't even mentioned in the legislation, nor are the 6 other corporations affected beside Disney. They can try and fight it on legislative grounds, but if they try anything other than that they will open themselves up to outside discovery of all the things they have concealed while they have policed themselves, most notably crimes and their corporate liability related to children, guest safety, and environmental protection and hazards. Disney like one of those blurred out areas on Google maps when it comes to such inquiries because they police themselves. Unless they try to fight it on anything but procedural/administrative grounds. That's when they open themselves up to exposure.
- readme 4y ago
  It's not surprising, it's just unconstitutional

ss108 4y ago

samhw 4y ago
Eh, they aren't wrong. The Disney Corporation should absolutely blatantly not have those privileges. I don't care if some right-winger happens to agree with that, and what motivations they have for doing so - none of that changes what's right and wrong.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  “The last temptation is the greatest treason: to do the right deed for the wrong reason.” - T. S. Eliot, “Murder in the Cathedral”
  - samhw 4y ago
    I'm not totally sure whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me... In this case I'm supporting the right thing for (in my view, obviously) the right reason. Others support it for the wrong reason. Given the inconceivably great multiplicity of views in the world, I'm not sure you'll find a single belief of a single person of which that statement isn't equally true! Edit: Also, gotta say, I prefer the Four Quartets
throwaway0a5e 4y ago
Except for the last paragraph covering current events he sounds like the prevailing HN viewpoint on the issue circa ye olden days of 2021
- homonculus1 4y ago
  If Sony started giving LSD to kindergarteners, I bet you valley nerds would forget about that whole DVD thing