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imo, being so caught up in identity is what makes US progressives so toxic. Once you go deep into identity it becomes an abstraction that replaces the root caus
by kodah 5y ago
imo, being so caught up in identity is what makes US progressives so toxic. Once you go deep into identity it becomes an abstraction that replaces the root cause, which is class distinctions. Identity is useful in solving specific problems, like systemic racism, but US progressives are practically blind to class problems which makes them especially problematic when they can't recognize how rural areas have class overlaps and alienate those constituents and problems. Hence, US progressives are so volatile and wildly different from the global landscape. Whether or not you believe the basis of global progressivism starts with class distinctions or not and how the US perspective based on identity erodes that is likely where we differ. I'll admit that my bias doesn't favor US progressives because I belong to an identity that's frequently ignored, if not mocked in various ways, by progressives (I'm a vet) and there's little in the way of a future reckoning for that.
I agree with the last paragraph. Anyone that does not understand the various striations of politics but attempts to speak on broad groups negatively without that understanding does immeasurable damage to discourse.
- throwaway894345 5y ago> Whether or not you believe the basis of global progressivism starts with class distinctions or not and how the US perspective based on identity erodes that is likely where we differ. I think we agree here. Most "progressives" outside of the US are a lot more likely to focus on class distinctions while US progressives are preoccupied by identity.