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I still live there, a suburb of Portland OR. I locked in a cheap apartment years ago that's now rent controlled, which makes my situation possible. I currently

I still live there, a suburb of Portland OR. I locked in a cheap apartment years ago that's now rent controlled, which makes my situation possible. I currently pay about half what new renters pay. Without it, I'd be stuck in wage-slavery anyways and couldn't take the time to self-improve like this. Moving is an option (my partner has restrictions: No states with anti-abortion laws, which removes many inexpensive places), if I go remote. Seems like every other dev has the same idea and that's helping drive prices up everywhere - along with other factors, of course.

bombcar 4y ago
Friends of mine who make a combined way less than you bought new construction across the river in Vancouver, WA. Even staying just in the State of Oregon finds places under $200k (perhaps not the most desirable of building types, but certainly above a mobile home). But that may really put you in the "sticks" - south middle of Oregon is some of the most unpopulated land in the USA. Rent-control may end up trapping you in another way; fear to move because of your current deal. Had a friend stay in a three-bedroom apartment long after he should have moved up to a house for just this reason.
zo1 4y ago
That is an oddly-specific restriction your partner is demanding.
- sangnoir 4y ago
  It may just be a shibboleth/canary for a set of state politics the partner disagrees with.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Seems very reasonable to want women to have access to healthcare they might need in worst case scenarios. I would even throw in requirements of parental leave, amongst other basic protections. Assisted suicide comes to mind too.
  - mrep 4y ago
    If abortion law, something you can simply drive to another state for a once in a lifetime event is in your requirements for where you can live, don't be surprised when people roll their eyes at you when you bitch about housing costs. Penny wise pound foolish.
    - lotsofpulp 4y ago
      One may also not want to contribute to those leaders on principle, and instead reward the other leaders even though it costs more. Also, this type of stuff is costly to deal with, in terms of emotional and physical health, and probably even monetary costs: https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/texas-woman-charged-with-murder-for-an-alleged-abortion.html https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/texas-woman-charged-with-murd... > She miscarried at a hospital and allegedly confided to hospital staff that she had attempted to induce her own abortion and she was reported to the authorities by hospital administration or staff,” Here, you have precedent being set that a woman should play it safe and withhold information from their healthcare provider, lest they be put through an ordeal like this.
      - mrep 4y ago
        > One may also not want to contribute to those leaders on principle, and instead reward the other leaders even though it costs more. Of course, just don't expect me to care about your housing costs if that is your reason you choose to stay in a high COL area. And I'm not sure what precedent that example sets relevant to me because nobody I know would try and induce their own abortion in an anti-abortion state instead of just driving out of state and going to a professional clinic.
    - Copernicron 4y ago
      Unless the state you're living in has made it illegal to transport someone across state lines for the purposes of getting an abortion. It has been done in a few places.
- heavyset_go 4y ago
  I wouldn't choose to raise my daughter in a place that would penalize or prevent her from getting the healthcare she needs because of other people's feelings about that care, and I certainly wouldn't want to be penalized for helping her, either. Same would go for any female in my family.

bombcar 4y ago

Friends of mine who make a combined way less than you bought new construction across the river in Vancouver, WA. Even staying just in the State of Oregon finds places under $200k (perhaps not the most desirable of building types, but certainly above a mobile home). But that may really put you in the "sticks" - south middle of Oregon is some of the most unpopulated land in the USA. Rent-control may end up trapping you in another way; fear to move because of your current deal. Had a friend stay in a three-bedroom apartment long after he should have moved up to a house for just this reason.

zo1 4y ago

That is an oddly-specific restriction your partner is demanding.

sangnoir 4y ago
It may just be a shibboleth/canary for a set of state politics the partner disagrees with.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
Seems very reasonable to want women to have access to healthcare they might need in worst case scenarios. I would even throw in requirements of parental leave, amongst other basic protections. Assisted suicide comes to mind too.
- mrep 4y ago
  If abortion law, something you can simply drive to another state for a once in a lifetime event is in your requirements for where you can live, don't be surprised when people roll their eyes at you when you bitch about housing costs. Penny wise pound foolish.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    One may also not want to contribute to those leaders on principle, and instead reward the other leaders even though it costs more. Also, this type of stuff is costly to deal with, in terms of emotional and physical health, and probably even monetary costs: https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/texas-woman-charged-with-murder-for-an-alleged-abortion.html https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/texas-woman-charged-with-murd... > She miscarried at a hospital and allegedly confided to hospital staff that she had attempted to induce her own abortion and she was reported to the authorities by hospital administration or staff,” Here, you have precedent being set that a woman should play it safe and withhold information from their healthcare provider, lest they be put through an ordeal like this.
    - mrep 4y ago
      > One may also not want to contribute to those leaders on principle, and instead reward the other leaders even though it costs more. Of course, just don't expect me to care about your housing costs if that is your reason you choose to stay in a high COL area. And I'm not sure what precedent that example sets relevant to me because nobody I know would try and induce their own abortion in an anti-abortion state instead of just driving out of state and going to a professional clinic.
  - Copernicron 4y ago
    Unless the state you're living in has made it illegal to transport someone across state lines for the purposes of getting an abortion. It has been done in a few places.
heavyset_go 4y ago
I wouldn't choose to raise my daughter in a place that would penalize or prevent her from getting the healthcare she needs because of other people's feelings about that care, and I certainly wouldn't want to be penalized for helping her, either. Same would go for any female in my family.