4 ms·

This article just sounds like stereotyping to me It sounds like the author is just projecting their own values onto the upcoming generation, viz "Gen Z cares a

This article just sounds like stereotyping to me It sounds like the author is just projecting their own values onto the upcoming generation, viz "Gen Z cares about X" when really the author just cherry picks stuff that reaffirms his/her values I refuse to buy into any of this "Gen Z thinks X" or "Millennials think X" BS. The armchair sociologists should go out and actually contribute something worthwhile to society as opposed to shitting out newspaper articles like this

ghayes 4y ago
> Naturally, this has major consequences for social attitudes about work — and the viability of performing labor in times of crisis. What sets zoomers apart, according to common narratives, is their determination to be fulfilled and defined by other aspects of life. They expect employers to recognize that and promote policies and benefits that encourage work-life balance. At first, I thought this paragraph was a direct quote, as it definitely shows the author willing to make fairly strong claims on her own account. I feel the norm here is for the author to be neutral and use quotes and data to express the point.
- derevaunseraun 4y ago
  > I feel the norm here is for the author to be neutral and use quotes and data to express the point. I think if we're bullshitting ourselves about (all) news media we can say it's neutral. But really it's just a bunch of assumptions. The appeal of news articles is like a reverse Occam's Razor: the more assumptions the better But at least the author is a little honest and says "according to common narratives" aka "I'm bullshitting"
JaimeThompson 4y ago
>actually contribute something worthwhile to society Such as? We expect them to get buy on little money, no insurance in a lot of cases while they have to deal with the rude public, random scheduling changes, and being treated like trash by their managers.
droopyEyelids 4y ago
Thanks for bringing this up. All 'generational discourse' is written by lazy journalists as a quick way to get people emotionally invested in an article without having to do actual research, and without the possibility of being proven wrong about their vague claims. I find it particularly annoying because it's also an example of prejudicial ingroup/outgroup formation based on demagoguery. I'd go as far as saying it shares some of the same elements of racism-based demagoguery, but the targets are vague enough that it doesn't cause the same extreme social problems that racism does.
the_only_law 4y ago
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room.
- notacoward 4y ago
  -- Kenneth John Freeman, 1907

ghayes 4y ago

> Naturally, this has major consequences for social attitudes about work — and the viability of performing labor in times of crisis. What sets zoomers apart, according to common narratives, is their determination to be fulfilled and defined by other aspects of life. They expect employers to recognize that and promote policies and benefits that encourage work-life balance. At first, I thought this paragraph was a direct quote, as it definitely shows the author willing to make fairly strong claims on her own account. I feel the norm here is for the author to be neutral and use quotes and data to express the point.

derevaunseraun 4y ago
> I feel the norm here is for the author to be neutral and use quotes and data to express the point. I think if we're bullshitting ourselves about (all) news media we can say it's neutral. But really it's just a bunch of assumptions. The appeal of news articles is like a reverse Occam's Razor: the more assumptions the better But at least the author is a little honest and says "according to common narratives" aka "I'm bullshitting"

JaimeThompson 4y ago

>actually contribute something worthwhile to society Such as? We expect them to get buy on little money, no insurance in a lot of cases while they have to deal with the rude public, random scheduling changes, and being treated like trash by their managers.

droopyEyelids 4y ago

Thanks for bringing this up. All 'generational discourse' is written by lazy journalists as a quick way to get people emotionally invested in an article without having to do actual research, and without the possibility of being proven wrong about their vague claims. I find it particularly annoying because it's also an example of prejudicial ingroup/outgroup formation based on demagoguery. I'd go as far as saying it shares some of the same elements of racism-based demagoguery, but the targets are vague enough that it doesn't cause the same extreme social problems that racism does.

the_only_law 4y ago

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room.

notacoward 4y ago
-- Kenneth John Freeman, 1907