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While Nix / NixOS is very clever, I think this video enumerates enough pain-points why you'd not want to dabble with it for your 1-2 hosts at home. Only the sec

by _y5hn 4y ago

While Nix / NixOS is very clever, I think this video enumerates enough pain-points why you'd not want to dabble with it for your 1-2 hosts at home. Only the security point is enough to convince me it sadly do not belong to our production or office-LAN. For most of us, it's a benefit/cost analysis. I've no doubt I can figure it out, but last time I tried, a package came with defaults that differed from just running a .jar file. I saw no way to change that config anywhere. Things like that make it not worthwhile unless you're doing something that makes it worthwhile. I think docker / K8s probably fits better in those usecases anyways, though I do use nix / guix at times for packages that work properly. I think requirements and plain ol' luck (or never needing anything fancy) can play a bigger role, for those of us who sometimes distro-hop a bit.

SkyMarshal 4y ago
> pain-points why you'd not want to dabble with it for your 1-2 hosts at home I use NixOS on my 2 hosts at home. It took about 3-months of tinkering with it and testing different things until I was comfortable to do that. But the headaches it’s solved make that investment more than worth it. Declarative config and reproducible builds are just amazing, I could never go back to a regular linux now.
deltaonefour 4y ago
It's used for deployment of an entire operating system for edge devices at the company I work for. Especially for C++ it fixes alot of dependency nightmares. However it takes about 6 months for a new hire to ramp up to nixos. The only reason why our company uses nixos is because someone really smart was part of the founding team. Docker is a good alternative... but honestly if you think about it, instead of using containers for OS's an OS itself should be designed to deal with this problem. It works in the same way type script works as type script is an effective an elegant hack to get around the warts of javascript.

by _y5hn 4y ago

SkyMarshal 4y ago

> pain-points why you'd not want to dabble with it for your 1-2 hosts at home I use NixOS on my 2 hosts at home. It took about 3-months of tinkering with it and testing different things until I was comfortable to do that. But the headaches it’s solved make that investment more than worth it. Declarative config and reproducible builds are just amazing, I could never go back to a regular linux now.

deltaonefour 4y ago

It's used for deployment of an entire operating system for edge devices at the company I work for. Especially for C++ it fixes alot of dependency nightmares. However it takes about 6 months for a new hire to ramp up to nixos. The only reason why our company uses nixos is because someone really smart was part of the founding team. Docker is a good alternative... but honestly if you think about it, instead of using containers for OS's an OS itself should be designed to deal with this problem. It works in the same way type script works as type script is an effective an elegant hack to get around the warts of javascript.