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Since switching to hard mode, I almost never start with “good words”. Too much risk of getting the 10 possibilities with 3 guesses remaining type situation.
by mostertoaster 4y ago
Since switching to hard mode, I almost never start with “good words”. Too much risk of getting the 10 possibilities with 3 guesses remaining type situation.
- jeffbee 4y agoThere isn’t a hard mode strategy that assures a win, though. You have to get lucky or lose sometimes.
- __s 4y agohttps://jonathanolson.net/wordle-solver https://jonathanolson.net/wordle-solver salet, cramp
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- mplanchard 4y agoIt’s true you can get into a hole, but there are strategies that help, like the one the person you’re replying to mentioned. It also helps to get a sense for what kinds of words wordle uses (e.g. no plurals). That being said, it’s the possibility of losing that makes it exciting! I’ve played 113 times on hard mode and only lost once so far, guessing between two possibilities on the sixth word. For a while now I’ve just been starting with the previous day’s word to mix things up, rather than trying to use the most optimal starters.
- shawnz 4y agoYou can always win even in hard mode with perfect play: https://www.poirrier.ca/notes/wordle-optimal/ https://www.poirrier.ca/notes/wordle-optimal/ > In hard mode, Wordle can be solved in 3.5076 guesses on average (with 6 guesses at worst, i.e. 100% of the time). Or, with a different decision tree, it can be solved with a slightly worse average, but always within 5 guesses
- jeffbee 4y agoOnly if you cheat by referring to the list of solution words. No strategy with a 6-guess worst case is possible without referring to that list.
- gizmo686 4y agoHow is that cheating? The dictionary is part of the game.
- jeffbee 4y agoThe subset of words that are solutions is an internal data structure of the game. It is clearly cheating to refer to that list. If you are willing to examine the inside of the game's black box, the optimal strategy is to simply extract today's answer.
- pxeger1 4y agoAs a human, you already have knowledge which is similar to knowing the internal dictionary: you can judge what other kinds of words Wordle is likely to avoid (uncommon words, proper nouns, plurals). So I don't think it is cheating.
- kupopuffs 4y agoDepends on what you're testing. Are we just testing your memory or recall?
- furyofantares 4y agoThing is, you can develop a very strong intuition for which words are in that list: they're all common words and mostly "main dictionary entries" (you probably won't find a 4 letter noun or verb with "s" tacked onto the end, probably not "ed" or "es" either) Certainly using the exact list is a step beyond that; but you can in fact get very accurate at guessing which words might be on it without memorizing the list
- phphphphp 4y agoSorry, can you explain what you mean here: I play hard mode and I always get the word within 6 guesses — and I’m no savant, I’m an idiot, and I don’t cheat — no looking at the word list. The same is true for my friends who play on hard mode: no cheating, always finish. Why is luck required for hard mode?
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- jeffbee 4y agoThat's luck, which is fine. But there is not an optimal strategy which if followed always result in a win for the actual Wordle games. Some of them require at least 7 guesses in hard mode.
- twobitshifter 4y agoI lost this week on FOYER without repeated letters, there are plenty of words with ER endings and O as a second letter. —- VOICE LONER TOWER JOKER POSER HOMER ——- The last two were unlikely to be the word, but I try to finish in only a few minutes and those popped to my head before foyer. But I could have guessed BOXER or DOPER or some other words I’m sure. When I’ve lost it’s usually because I have 3 letters and guessing only 2 new letters at a time doesn’t let you eliminate the other options fast enough.
- mostertoaster 4y agoYeah this was the exact one I was thinking. Our wordle slack group lots of people lost on foyer. I had started with some random word with lots of consonants (all black result), so when I got to having just o e and r, I only had two clear possibilities I could see left with three guesses.
- kilbuz 4y agoLOVER BOXER POWER CODER... broke my steak of 90...
- thxg 4y ago
- jimbob45 4y agoSame. I start with QUARK every time. It’s mostly to one day achieve that elusive 1-guess solution but it often ends up making my life easier by avoiding pigeonholing myself on hard mode.
- kingcharles 4y agoI always go SOARE GLINT DUCKY WHOMP. I've never missed with this (so far).