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Let’s conveniently forget that Gibraltar is actually territorially part of Spain, most essential facilities are provided by Spain, that a significant proportion

Let’s conveniently forget that Gibraltar is actually territorially part of Spain, most essential facilities are provided by Spain, that a significant proportion of jobs necessary to it are held by Spaniard and that Gibraltar economy is due to it being a tax haven which would stop if it was part of Spain. Oversee territories are a shame on every countries that still hold them be it the UK or France.

blibble 5y ago
> Let’s conveniently forget that Gibraltar is actually territorially part of Spain it is most definitely not it handed it over in the peace treaty that ended the war > The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever. full text here: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Peace_and_Friendship_Treaty_of_Utrecht_between_Spain_and_Great_Britain https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Peace_and_Friendship_Treaty_o... > Oversee territories are a shame on every countries that still hold them be it the UK or France. meanwhile Spain has two enclaves of the exact same type of in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla
- WastingMyTime89 5y ago
  > it handed it over in the peace treaty that ended the war The fact that it was taken by force in 1701 didn’t magically teleport it from Spain to anywhere where it made sense for it to be part of the UK. > meanwhile Spain has two enclaves of the exact same type of in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla It’s not less shameful.
  - blibble 5y ago
    as you appear to be some alien from beyond the solar system on Earth: previously political boundaries were set on the outcome of armed conflicts Great Britain won the last one against Spain, and gained Gibraltar as a result over 300 years ago these days we are slightly more enlightened and tend to mainly believe in self-determination the people living in Gibraltar wish to remain British giving them up to Spain against their wishes would be an act of imperialism (commonly frowned on in the 21st century)

blibble 5y ago

> Let’s conveniently forget that Gibraltar is actually territorially part of Spain it is most definitely not it handed it over in the peace treaty that ended the war > The Catholic King does hereby, for himself, his heirs and successors, yield to the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications, and forts thereunto belonging; and he gives up the said propriety to be held and enjoyed absolutely with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment whatsoever. full text here: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Peace_and_Friendship_Treaty_of_Utrecht_between_Spain_and_Great_Britain https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Peace_and_Friendship_Treaty_o... > Oversee territories are a shame on every countries that still hold them be it the UK or France. meanwhile Spain has two enclaves of the exact same type of in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla

WastingMyTime89 5y ago
> it handed it over in the peace treaty that ended the war The fact that it was taken by force in 1701 didn’t magically teleport it from Spain to anywhere where it made sense for it to be part of the UK. > meanwhile Spain has two enclaves of the exact same type of in Morocco, Ceuta and Melilla It’s not less shameful.
- blibble 5y ago
  as you appear to be some alien from beyond the solar system on Earth: previously political boundaries were set on the outcome of armed conflicts Great Britain won the last one against Spain, and gained Gibraltar as a result over 300 years ago these days we are slightly more enlightened and tend to mainly believe in self-determination the people living in Gibraltar wish to remain British giving them up to Spain against their wishes would be an act of imperialism (commonly frowned on in the 21st century)