4 ms·
It's not merely expectations but intergenerational poverty. I get that you think that you came from a less privileged background than your in-laws and in some r
by Longlius 4y ago
It's not merely expectations but intergenerational poverty. I get that you think that you came from a less privileged background than your in-laws and in some respects that's true, but even being able to immigrate to the US indicates a degree of social mobility that simply isn't available to the intergenerationally poor in rural America. These are people who grew up in places without anything to do, no training for higher-paid professions available, and who pay first-world expenses simply to exist.
How does one get ahead with 4 children and maybe $2000 of household income per month when rents eat half of that.
This isn't simply a problem of moral failing on the individual level but of failings at the societal level to provide a means for these people to escape poverty.
- temp3444 4y ago
- Longlius 4y agoDepends on the immigrant family. The ones from Mexico and Central American certainly don't have much, but those coming from East and South Asia who immediately start businesses on arrival have access to more wealth (either personally or via social connections) than many native-born Americans will have access to in their entire lives.
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y ago> Simple, don't have 4 children. Okay, but some people do, so what then? Fuck them and their 4 kids who did nothing wrong but be born?
- temp3444 4y agoWe need to seriously stop treating having kids as some kind of accident that just happens. It's extremely simple to not have children. American society is free, which means you are free to fail and fuck things up. If someone has 4 children the only person to blame is the parents. If you can't control yourself, get yourself sterilized. We don't need more of your insane lineage that can't prevent themselves from having 4 children on this planet.
- SamoyedFurFluff 4y agoOkay, but again, so we have 4 kids and people with 4 kids. We can wave all the blame we want but all that ends up logically concluding is “fuck children in bad economic situations who did nothing to deserve their situation”. We cannot unbirth children, so now they’re here, how can we incentivize society so that when they grow up they don’t end up putting future children in their current position?
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- hackerfromthefu 4y agoWhy should one be expected to 'get ahead' if they didn't have skills and prepare for having an income to allow this, but had 4 kids? The rational answer there is to to have less kids, and spend more time working on a career!