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There is a stigma in pushing stable values. In a very real sense, it’s created by a media environment that eschews non-progressive (it’s not liberal - at least

There is a stigma in pushing stable values. In a very real sense, it’s created by a media environment that eschews non-progressive (it’s not liberal - at least in the USA) family structures. Let’s face it, Homer Simpson is the face of traditional American family structures.

fineIllregister 4y ago
> Homer Simpson is the face of traditional American family structures. The life available to Homer Simpson included a skilled job that he could obtain without a college degree (and also while being an idiot). He was able to purchase a four bedroom home in the community he grew up in and provide for his wife and three children on that one income. That was the norm, now it's practically gone. The lack of accessible economic opportunity, housing, and childcare are major barriers to having kids. If the same opportunities were available to my generation as they were to Homer Simpson's, this article wouldn't exist. No one I know is delaying or avoiding a family because "the media" didn't show them how to start a "non-prgressive" one.
- ipaddr 4y ago
  So was Al Bundy or Dan Conner from Roseanne. The great reset theory many were down playing might be coming true where people don't own anything they rent everything from society
- yywwbbn 4y ago
  > That was the norm I don’t think you should blindly trust everything you see on TV. I doubt being able to afford a 4 bedroom while working in a low skilled job was ever the norm (even without being an idiot). In any case Homer was an engineer in a nuclear power plant, while he was probably quite underpaid, his income should had still been relatively decent.
  - fineIllregister 4y ago
    Being able to support a family on one, non-degree necessary income absolutely was the norm.
anonfornoreason 4y ago
When I was in my twenties, I thought having a family before you were in your thirties meant you were kinda dumb. That’s what people who didn’t have ambitions did. Fast forward to now and it is one of my very few regrets. I have three kids, but wish I would have started in my twenties and prioritized family more. When I was in my twenties, the homer Simpsons of the world were idiots. In my thirties, they were the ones who got it right.
- DeathArrow 4y ago
  I've came to the very same conclusions.

fineIllregister 4y ago

> Homer Simpson is the face of traditional American family structures. The life available to Homer Simpson included a skilled job that he could obtain without a college degree (and also while being an idiot). He was able to purchase a four bedroom home in the community he grew up in and provide for his wife and three children on that one income. That was the norm, now it's practically gone. The lack of accessible economic opportunity, housing, and childcare are major barriers to having kids. If the same opportunities were available to my generation as they were to Homer Simpson's, this article wouldn't exist. No one I know is delaying or avoiding a family because "the media" didn't show them how to start a "non-prgressive" one.

ipaddr 4y ago
So was Al Bundy or Dan Conner from Roseanne. The great reset theory many were down playing might be coming true where people don't own anything they rent everything from society
yywwbbn 4y ago
> That was the norm I don’t think you should blindly trust everything you see on TV. I doubt being able to afford a 4 bedroom while working in a low skilled job was ever the norm (even without being an idiot). In any case Homer was an engineer in a nuclear power plant, while he was probably quite underpaid, his income should had still been relatively decent.
- fineIllregister 4y ago
  Being able to support a family on one, non-degree necessary income absolutely was the norm.

anonfornoreason 4y ago

When I was in my twenties, I thought having a family before you were in your thirties meant you were kinda dumb. That’s what people who didn’t have ambitions did. Fast forward to now and it is one of my very few regrets. I have three kids, but wish I would have started in my twenties and prioritized family more. When I was in my twenties, the homer Simpsons of the world were idiots. In my thirties, they were the ones who got it right.

DeathArrow 4y ago
I've came to the very same conclusions.