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r/personalfinance is largely fine if you've made it that far. I read the comment you replied to to be the, follow your passion, university is required, lean-in

r/personalfinance is largely fine if you've made it that far. I read the comment you replied to to be the, follow your passion, university is required, lean-in, girl-boss, live your dream, it takes a village, shitty advice that permeates culture in the US. The messaging that children out of wedlock is pro-poverty and marriage is anti-poverty is nearly non-existant in the main stream. Same with the negative outcomes of boys raised by single mothers.

franciscop 4y ago
Okay University required is the one I knew in the US that should be controversial but is not too much yet. Follow your passion seems to be similar to live your dream, and I can see that being terrible advice for young lower-class. This is AFAIK only a path encouraged for rich kids in Spain and only to certain extent, since they will inherit whatever. But probably due to chronic young unemployment, our society highly critical to studying degrees without good opportunities. Ironically the only places I've seen this in Spain as advice from high class to everyone is where we've strongly imported USA culture, among "modern entrepreneurs". Had never heard of "girl-boss" nor "it takes a village" as financial advice! Reading about girl-boss [1], I'm assuming (please correct me if I'm wrong!) it's about empowerment and not taking a "normal" job and instead try to be your own boss, specially aimed at young women. Which is great if you are upper class and can fall back to your family for help, but obviously a terrible idea if you don't have a plan-b/good fallback, resulting in poverty. Right? And about "it takes a village"? I cannot find much relevant info, everything seems to be about getting help from your community. Does it mean that it's great advice if you are surrounded by successful driven people, but bad advice if the community is a poor one riffled with crime? Sorry for so many questions, most are confirmations to make sure I understood things correctly [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlboss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlboss
- AvocadoPanic 4y ago
  Yes generally that's it. Girl-bossing is also the desire / goal to achieve success in a traditionally male fashion; Elizabeth Holms, Sheryl Sandberg, Carly Fiorina, etc. The obscured bit to this is that men typically don't value this sort of success in their wives or mothers of their children and many woman chasing this success end up in mid-level make-work jobs anyway. It takes a village https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village With the breakdown of marriage and the increase of 'non-traditional' families / decrease in nuclear families, this proverb was bandied about as marketing for 'non-traditional' families. Of course in practice the outcomes match what you'd expect a child raised by an African village to be.

franciscop 4y ago

Okay University required is the one I knew in the US that should be controversial but is not too much yet. Follow your passion seems to be similar to live your dream, and I can see that being terrible advice for young lower-class. This is AFAIK only a path encouraged for rich kids in Spain and only to certain extent, since they will inherit whatever. But probably due to chronic young unemployment, our society highly critical to studying degrees without good opportunities. Ironically the only places I've seen this in Spain as advice from high class to everyone is where we've strongly imported USA culture, among "modern entrepreneurs". Had never heard of "girl-boss" nor "it takes a village" as financial advice! Reading about girl-boss [1], I'm assuming (please correct me if I'm wrong!) it's about empowerment and not taking a "normal" job and instead try to be your own boss, specially aimed at young women. Which is great if you are upper class and can fall back to your family for help, but obviously a terrible idea if you don't have a plan-b/good fallback, resulting in poverty. Right? And about "it takes a village"? I cannot find much relevant info, everything seems to be about getting help from your community. Does it mean that it's great advice if you are surrounded by successful driven people, but bad advice if the community is a poor one riffled with crime? Sorry for so many questions, most are confirmations to make sure I understood things correctly [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlboss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlboss

AvocadoPanic 4y ago
Yes generally that's it. Girl-bossing is also the desire / goal to achieve success in a traditionally male fashion; Elizabeth Holms, Sheryl Sandberg, Carly Fiorina, etc. The obscured bit to this is that men typically don't value this sort of success in their wives or mothers of their children and many woman chasing this success end up in mid-level make-work jobs anyway. It takes a village https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_takes_a_village With the breakdown of marriage and the increase of 'non-traditional' families / decrease in nuclear families, this proverb was bandied about as marketing for 'non-traditional' families. Of course in practice the outcomes match what you'd expect a child raised by an African village to be.