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Logistics (fuel, food, tires etc) were definitely a contributor to the convoy’s stalled assault. As it turns out, there were also a group of Ukrainian Special

Logistics (fuel, food, tires etc) were definitely a contributor to the convoy’s stalled assault. As it turns out, there were also a group of Ukrainian Special forces that pestered and attacked that column relentlessly. Kudos to them and their efforts. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/the-drone-operators-who-halted-the-russian-armoured-vehicles-heading-for-kyiv https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/28/the-drone-oper...

krisoft 4y ago
> As it turns out, there were also a group of Ukrainian Special forces that pestered and attacked that column relentlessly. I mean yeah? That is the nature of millitary offensives. The opposition tends to make your life harder every way they can. When someone says that the attack stalled because the attacking force botched the logistics, that doesn’t mean that they forgot that tanks run on fuel. It means that they couldn’t deliver the supplies needed because their logistics were not resilient to enemy action. In the very micro level this might mean that a particular Ukranian soldier shot dead a particular Russian fuel truck driver. (Or they blown up the truck, or trapped it, or misrouted it, or caused them enough fear the truck driver decided to run away instead of getting the supplies to the troops.) On the macro level the details don’t matter, there you can say that the logistic failed. Similarly if during an excercise in your own country the fuel trucks show up a day late that’s not a problem. You spend the day camping next to your tank and the fuel arrives when it arrives. But if the same happens during a real invasion you are a sitting duck the enemy is trying to kill. Logistics failing and the Ukrainan forces pestering and attacking the column are not two different things. They are one and the same, but on two different levels of abstraction.

krisoft 4y ago

> As it turns out, there were also a group of Ukrainian Special forces that pestered and attacked that column relentlessly. I mean yeah? That is the nature of millitary offensives. The opposition tends to make your life harder every way they can. When someone says that the attack stalled because the attacking force botched the logistics, that doesn’t mean that they forgot that tanks run on fuel. It means that they couldn’t deliver the supplies needed because their logistics were not resilient to enemy action. In the very micro level this might mean that a particular Ukranian soldier shot dead a particular Russian fuel truck driver. (Or they blown up the truck, or trapped it, or misrouted it, or caused them enough fear the truck driver decided to run away instead of getting the supplies to the troops.) On the macro level the details don’t matter, there you can say that the logistic failed. Similarly if during an excercise in your own country the fuel trucks show up a day late that’s not a problem. You spend the day camping next to your tank and the fuel arrives when it arrives. But if the same happens during a real invasion you are a sitting duck the enemy is trying to kill. Logistics failing and the Ukrainan forces pestering and attacking the column are not two different things. They are one and the same, but on two different levels of abstraction.