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Debian is still Systemd based. If you want to get away from that you need something pretty bizarre like Alpine or Gentoo.
by usrn 5y ago
Debian is still Systemd based. If you want to get away from that you need something pretty bizarre like Alpine or Gentoo.
- walrus01 5y agoedited post, didn't mean that I have a problem with systemd, just all the extra stuff that canonical has created as "launch on boot" daemons/services which are unique to ubuntu only and no other linux.
- tomc1985 5y agoVery frustrating just how much CPU/memory a blank Ubuntu install uses while idle vs Debian. For largely the same resulting system. I always prefer Debian because of crap like that.
- imiric 5y agoDevuan is an option too. It's Debian without systemd and gives the choice of SysVinit, OpenRC or runit.
- webmobdev 5y agoThere's also Devuan - https://www.devuan.org/ https://www.devuan.org/ - A debian Frok without systemd. Don't know how well maintained it is though.
- chartreusek 5y agoYou can install a sysvinit based stock debian if you wish. I've done it a few times recently, on low memory systems (<512MB) it does make a noticeable difference. It's mostly supported in terms of running, though the install is a bit manual: https://wiki.debian.org/Init https://wiki.debian.org/Init There's also instructions for converting a running system, but I've had no luck with that. It just resulted in an unbootable system for me as it couldn't fully remove systemd there.
- stjohnswarts 5y agoSure but systemd doesn't bother most people. Some of the arch based options also let you get away from systemd without a whole lot of effort.
- nine_k 5y agoI personally have a few years of good experience with Void Linux.