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> DID is often presented as a kind of get-of-accountability-free card, as someone who claims to have it can always say that past bad behavior was caused by anot

by tus666 4y ago

> DID is often presented as a kind of get-of-accountability-free card, as someone who claims to have it can always say that past bad behavior was caused by another personality and is thus not their responsibility. Isn't that basically mental illness in general? > fabrications shaped by therapists who insist that traumatic events must have happened It seems that the idea of trauma (especially childhood) itself remains highly controversial in psychiatry. Why? There appears to be this nexus or intersection between personally responsibility in the legal/social context and our willingness to acknowledge the affects of trauma. The connection between psychiatry and the demands of the legal system are probably underappreciated.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
> Isn't that basically mental illness in general? I’m puzzled by this question. Are you suggesting that all mental illness allows the one suffering to abdicate “past bad behavior”?
- tus666 4y ago
  I was saying it often is used as an excuse in legal proceedings. I don't really have an opinion if that is right or not.
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    “According to an eight-state study, the insanity defense is used in less than 1% of all court cases and, when used, has only a 26% success rate. Of those cases that were successful, 90% of the defendants had been previously diagnosed with mental illness.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense
    - tus666 4y ago
      Mental illness is still widely used as a mitigating factor in sentencing, even if insanity is not plead.
      - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
        Mental illness has a much longer history of being (pointlessly) punished as 'evil'. A current one is the recognition that many people in prison may have untreated ADHD, which makes sense, just like a bunch of folk got kicked out of school for dyslexia in recent history (and then became successful artists or business leaders). You could argue, people are now just faking dyslexia to get a pass on having to work hard at school, but if you can't demonstrate that to be a bigger problem than the genuine dyslexics being discarded as useless due to assumptions being made that they were stupid or troublemakers because of their condition, then it's a price well worth paying.

by tus666 4y ago

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

> Isn't that basically mental illness in general? I’m puzzled by this question. Are you suggesting that all mental illness allows the one suffering to abdicate “past bad behavior”?

tus666 4y ago
I was saying it often is used as an excuse in legal proceedings. I don't really have an opinion if that is right or not.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  “According to an eight-state study, the insanity defense is used in less than 1% of all court cases and, when used, has only a 26% success rate. Of those cases that were successful, 90% of the defendants had been previously diagnosed with mental illness.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insanity_defense
  - tus666 4y ago
    Mental illness is still widely used as a mitigating factor in sentencing, even if insanity is not plead.
    - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
      Mental illness has a much longer history of being (pointlessly) punished as 'evil'. A current one is the recognition that many people in prison may have untreated ADHD, which makes sense, just like a bunch of folk got kicked out of school for dyslexia in recent history (and then became successful artists or business leaders). You could argue, people are now just faking dyslexia to get a pass on having to work hard at school, but if you can't demonstrate that to be a bigger problem than the genuine dyslexics being discarded as useless due to assumptions being made that they were stupid or troublemakers because of their condition, then it's a price well worth paying.