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I just don't get why they keep doubling down on snaps. Most people really, really hate them. Most people find them slow. They used to just reply their testin

I just don't get why they keep doubling down on snaps. Most people really, really hate them. Most people find them slow. They used to just reply their testing doesn't find it slow, too bad so sad. I say 'used to' because I gave up long ago so haven't bothered checking.

hypothesis 5y ago
Are those people paying customers? Likely the idea is to let upstream to package once and ship it on all supported platforms. This way there is no constant support/packaging required from distro itself. As to why snap format specifically, that’s probably allows them to make changes as needed without asking anyone.
- sgc 5y ago
  Right, but if in the process you take your great code and turn it into a crappy deliverable, that's on you. You don't get praise for taking serviceable software and bogging it down while locking out end users on an open source platform. You don't give a f*k. We get it. Further, if you are tunnel-vision focused on profit, remember that if you lose your end users, you lose your only means to eventual income.
  - hypothesis 5y ago
    I’m just acknowledging the reality. There is now a very nice summary comment from worik elsewhere in the thread, but basically end-users are no longer the same from Canonical’s perspective and so it’s probably wise to thank them for good things they did and move on.
    - sgc 5y ago
      These companies need to be reminded that users are the sina qua non condition for any customer whatsoever, and that their disinterested to hostile attitude towards users is a poison pill for them. "Users aren't the customer" is tired corporate-speak for "I want to be an a*hole", and needs to die. As to Canonical, the only reason I use FF anyways is because it is the lesser evil. They are far from stellar with their constant attempts to inject invasive monetizers into the browser.

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I just don't get why they keep doubling down on snaps. Most people really, really hate them. Most people find them slow. They used to just reply their testin

by silisili 5y ago

hypothesis 5y ago
Are those people paying customers? Likely the idea is to let upstream to package once and ship it on all supported platforms. This way there is no constant support/packaging required from distro itself. As to why snap format specifically, that’s probably allows them to make changes as needed without asking anyone.
- sgc 5y ago
  Right, but if in the process you take your great code and turn it into a crappy deliverable, that's on you. You don't get praise for taking serviceable software and bogging it down while locking out end users on an open source platform. You don't give a f*k. We get it. Further, if you are tunnel-vision focused on profit, remember that if you lose your end users, you lose your only means to eventual income.
  - hypothesis 5y ago
    I’m just acknowledging the reality. There is now a very nice summary comment from worik elsewhere in the thread, but basically end-users are no longer the same from Canonical’s perspective and so it’s probably wise to thank them for good things they did and move on.
    - sgc 5y ago
      These companies need to be reminded that users are the sina qua non condition for any customer whatsoever, and that their disinterested to hostile attitude towards users is a poison pill for them. "Users aren't the customer" is tired corporate-speak for "I want to be an a*hole", and needs to die. As to Canonical, the only reason I use FF anyways is because it is the lesser evil. They are far from stellar with their constant attempts to inject invasive monetizers into the browser.