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What I find quite interesting amongst my colleagues is that they are deeply invested/locked into either the Google ecosystem or the Apple ecosystem. I know zero

by jl6 5y ago

What I find quite interesting amongst my colleagues is that they are deeply invested/locked into either the Google ecosystem or the Apple ecosystem. I know zero people who have recent experience of using both iOS and Android - they’re either in one camp or the other, and have only superficial knowledge of what it’s like to use the other. It feels like two parallel universes running side by side, just out of reach of each other.

fma 5y ago
I prefer my Samsung Android phone over an iPhone...but I have an iPad. I had an iPhone 2 generations ago. My wife has an iPhone so I'm fairly in the loop on the pros/cons. I also have some Android tablets laying around and know how poor they perform. I wonder how much the pandemic has influenced these published numbers. I don't think they can differentiate someone download app from an iPhone vs iPad? All the remote learning has had students get tablets and I personally woulda have picked up an iPad...they do have the iPad pricing and features tailored with schools in mind.
jeffbee 5y ago
I have a Pixel 3a and an iPhone SE both of which I use on the daily: the iPhone on my person and the Pixel installed in my car. I can confidently say that Android is written by a technologically inferior race of extraterrestrials who hate humans and want them to suffer. Sometimes it is so busy recompiling JAR files, or whatever the hell it is doing, that it fails to ring for incoming calls. It is 50/50 chance whether it will hook up to Android Auto by itself, or whether I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in. It gobbles so much power at idle that even if I switch it off the battery will be dead in a week. When I power cycle it, it's a solid 5 minutes before it is responsive. I'm pretty sure what you say is true, but I think it only runs in one direction: Android users who are ignorant of iOS.
quitit 5y ago
There seems to be a level that some users reach where they truly engage their respective ecosystem efficiently. Those which can engage technology this way usually leverage the platform's abilities in a lifestyle enhancing way and switching isn't really a consideration: what they have works well, if it aint broke, don't fix it etc. However, as with computers (or really anything), there exists a sizeable group which don't use their devices well and instead have a superficial grasp of their platform, for these people switching is relatively straightforward since they rely very little on the interconnecting magic that makes the various apps and services work well together and instead mostly use the basic functionality of each app, which is relatively identical.
88840-8855 5y ago
It is like not knowing stuff about Windows 15 years ago. I find peculiar as yet alone the curiousity of a tech-savvy person (which I assume you are based on yout comments) should drive one at least to one of those modern OSes.
el-salvador 5y ago
Is it unusual in the U.S. to carry two phones? I've had a work provided phone and a personal phone for a long time and so most of the people I know. Sometimes I've had a work iPhone and a personal Android, and now a work Android and a personal older iPhone.
- adamomada 5y ago
  It is the complete opposite from my view, whereas "most of the people" would think carrying two phones to be quite ridiculous.
  - el-salvador 5y ago
    Some people do here, but perhaps I'm not brave enough I'd be worried about mixing up business and personal chats and photo galleries. Like if I need to take a picture with my work phone it's usually of something work related. Or forwarding the wrong meme on a business chat, or attaching the wrong file in a family/friend message could land me in trouble.
- sillyinseattle 5y ago
  Quite unusual. It's also harder to purchase devices with 2 (physical) SIM slots (a popular feature in Asia)
- jl6 5y ago
  The two-phone solution seems to be giving way to BYOD. I haven’t carried a second device in years.
  - el-salvador 5y ago
    Our telco salespeople must be really happy for selling two phones to each of us here. How does it work in NDA'd work environments? Like when company's information can't leave company's devices? Is BYOD accepted in those cases? Like with MDM managed phone or workspace separation?
    - 5y ago

by jl6 5y ago

fma 5y ago

I prefer my Samsung Android phone over an iPhone...but I have an iPad. I had an iPhone 2 generations ago. My wife has an iPhone so I'm fairly in the loop on the pros/cons. I also have some Android tablets laying around and know how poor they perform. I wonder how much the pandemic has influenced these published numbers. I don't think they can differentiate someone download app from an iPhone vs iPad? All the remote learning has had students get tablets and I personally woulda have picked up an iPad...they do have the iPad pricing and features tailored with schools in mind.

jeffbee 5y ago

I have a Pixel 3a and an iPhone SE both of which I use on the daily: the iPhone on my person and the Pixel installed in my car. I can confidently say that Android is written by a technologically inferior race of extraterrestrials who hate humans and want them to suffer. Sometimes it is so busy recompiling JAR files, or whatever the hell it is doing, that it fails to ring for incoming calls. It is 50/50 chance whether it will hook up to Android Auto by itself, or whether I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in. It gobbles so much power at idle that even if I switch it off the battery will be dead in a week. When I power cycle it, it's a solid 5 minutes before it is responsive. I'm pretty sure what you say is true, but I think it only runs in one direction: Android users who are ignorant of iOS.

quitit 5y ago

There seems to be a level that some users reach where they truly engage their respective ecosystem efficiently. Those which can engage technology this way usually leverage the platform's abilities in a lifestyle enhancing way and switching isn't really a consideration: what they have works well, if it aint broke, don't fix it etc. However, as with computers (or really anything), there exists a sizeable group which don't use their devices well and instead have a superficial grasp of their platform, for these people switching is relatively straightforward since they rely very little on the interconnecting magic that makes the various apps and services work well together and instead mostly use the basic functionality of each app, which is relatively identical.

88840-8855 5y ago

It is like not knowing stuff about Windows 15 years ago. I find peculiar as yet alone the curiousity of a tech-savvy person (which I assume you are based on yout comments) should drive one at least to one of those modern OSes.

el-salvador 5y ago

Is it unusual in the U.S. to carry two phones? I've had a work provided phone and a personal phone for a long time and so most of the people I know. Sometimes I've had a work iPhone and a personal Android, and now a work Android and a personal older iPhone.

adamomada 5y ago
It is the complete opposite from my view, whereas "most of the people" would think carrying two phones to be quite ridiculous.
- el-salvador 5y ago
  Some people do here, but perhaps I'm not brave enough I'd be worried about mixing up business and personal chats and photo galleries. Like if I need to take a picture with my work phone it's usually of something work related. Or forwarding the wrong meme on a business chat, or attaching the wrong file in a family/friend message could land me in trouble.
sillyinseattle 5y ago
Quite unusual. It's also harder to purchase devices with 2 (physical) SIM slots (a popular feature in Asia)
jl6 5y ago
The two-phone solution seems to be giving way to BYOD. I haven’t carried a second device in years.
- el-salvador 5y ago
  Our telco salespeople must be really happy for selling two phones to each of us here. How does it work in NDA'd work environments? Like when company's information can't leave company's devices? Is BYOD accepted in those cases? Like with MDM managed phone or workspace separation?
  - 5y ago