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In principle yes, in practice Google makes it much too difficult and scary for typical users.

by mdoms 4y ago

grishka 4y ago
It literally takes three taps to allow apps from an "unknown source".
- pjmlp 4y ago
  No regular consumer bothers with that.
  - easrng 4y ago
    It seems to work for Telegram.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Nope, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.messenger https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.m...
      - easrng 4y ago
        They have it on the play store too, but if you actually go to telegram.org they give you the apk download front and center with a "More comfortable with installing apps from the Google Play Store? Download Telegram from Google Play" link all the way at the bottom.
        pjmlp 4y ago
        Normal people use the store.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    When you have big games not on the appstore like Fornite it teaches a new generation how to do this. The warning becomes meaningless.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Apparently you missed the news that Google has placed Epic on its place.
- mdoms 4y ago
  With multiple big scary warnings.
  - efreak 4y ago
    I think you mean a small, not scary warning that occurs all of once, only the very first time you install an app. I install apps from fdroid on a regular basis, and there's just a prompt, with options to cancel or install (see [0] for a screenshot): > Do you want to install an update to this existing application? Your existing data will not be lost. Of course, you have to allow the third party app to initiate installs to begin with the very first time you try to install from that app, but that's not much worse, really (screenshots at [1]). This seems pretty clear cut to me, and less scary than the disclaimers in open source software on Windows. Now, if your app wants to modify system settings, access non-media files, etc...well, it's still not scary, really; for system settings changes, the OS will pop up a prompt similar to that for installing the app, while for accessibility and other permissions most apps will directly open the appropriate section of settings where all you have to do is approve the app. I think the warning on enabling a new keyboard is scarier, tbh. [0]: https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f... [1]: https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-setup1-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f... and https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-setup2-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f...

In principle yes, in practice Google makes it much too difficult and scary for typical users.

by mdoms 4y ago

In principle yes, in practice Google makes it much too difficult and scary for typical users.

grishka 4y ago

It literally takes three taps to allow apps from an "unknown source".

pjmlp 4y ago
No regular consumer bothers with that.
- easrng 4y ago
  It seems to work for Telegram.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Nope, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.messenger https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.m...
    - easrng 4y ago
      They have it on the play store too, but if you actually go to telegram.org they give you the apk download front and center with a "More comfortable with installing apps from the Google Play Store? Download Telegram from Google Play" link all the way at the bottom.
      - pjmlp 4y ago
        Normal people use the store.
- ipaddr 4y ago
  When you have big games not on the appstore like Fornite it teaches a new generation how to do this. The warning becomes meaningless.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Apparently you missed the news that Google has placed Epic on its place.
mdoms 4y ago
With multiple big scary warnings.
- efreak 4y ago
  I think you mean a small, not scary warning that occurs all of once, only the very first time you install an app. I install apps from fdroid on a regular basis, and there's just a prompt, with options to cancel or install (see [0] for a screenshot): > Do you want to install an update to this existing application? Your existing data will not be lost. Of course, you have to allow the third party app to initiate installs to begin with the very first time you try to install from that app, but that's not much worse, really (screenshots at [1]). This seems pretty clear cut to me, and less scary than the disclaimers in open source software on Windows. Now, if your app wants to modify system settings, access non-media files, etc...well, it's still not scary, really; for system settings changes, the OS will pop up a prompt similar to that for installing the app, while for accessibility and other permissions most apps will directly open the appropriate section of settings where all you have to do is approve the app. I think the warning on enabling a new keyboard is scarier, tbh. [0]: https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f... [1]: https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-setup1-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f... and https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9fd12#file-install-setup2-png https://gist.github.com/Efreak/b754063c18c8749aa339baffeab9f...