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1. He's a celebrity 2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month. 3. He has a career long history of infantile/de
by scandox 5y ago
1. He's a celebrity
2. He's extremely rich and clearly spoiled with household expenses exceeding 1m per month.
3. He has a career long history of infantile/destructive behavior - lots of which predates this case. I recall these reports from when I was a teen in the 1990s.
4. Culturally not a single thing he has worked on gives me the slightest interest in him.
If someone wanted to engage my sympathies they certainly would not make me identify with such a person.
As for the rest it sounds like an American problem so I'll leave that to the citizens of that great country to thrash out for themselves.
- zmgsabst 5y agoOkay — but to American men this situation comes across as: “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Do you really not understand how that would be radicalizing for people who saw Pirates of the Caribbean as kids and who faced similar sexism in their personal lives? To me, your position comes across as “I can’t personally relate to a victim, so I’m dismissing the concerns and experiences of an entire group.”
- pm90 5y ago> “Not even the fantastically wealthy Johnny Depp, who we grew up loving as Captain Jack, with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman.” Yes he is clearly an outlier and what he is experiencing should not be taken as indicative of anything other than the whims of celebrity culture. It has 0 bearing on what “regular” people will experience.
- zmgsabst 5y agoExcept that this case is resonating precisely because those kinds of false accusations against men are used in divorce and family courts routinely. What happened to Johnny Depp happens to men in courtrooms across America every day. This isn’t a case of “celebrity culture” — but rather, a case of the average American experience intruding on celebrity culture.
- pm90 5y agoIt’s absolutely not representative of anything people face in divorce courts. This comment makes me believe you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Have you actually been in a divorce proceeding? Your case will get thrown out for lying.
- zmgsabst 5y agoI witnessed my mother use these exact tactics in divorce and family court and I’ve seen the same used against friends — so yes. I would encourage you to do more research: that kind of lying is common, as the attorneys that work family law and commentate on the Virginia case have noted — in the two panel shows I linked elsewhere. [1] > This comment makes me believe you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Have you actually been in a divorce proceeding? I have the same opinion of your comment that denies the reality of divorce/family courts: You come across as not actually knowing how these things work. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31134174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31134174
- threeseed 5y ago> with all his wealth can defend himself against the false accusations of a clearly lying woman UK court found Heard's accusations to be credible. And Depp is more than capable of filing an appeal and taking it to higher courts if he believes there have been substantive issues with the court proceedings. But until that happens it should be assumed that he did indeed abuse her.
- usrn 5y ago